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Wyrdness said:
bonzobanana said:

PS2 reveal did a lot to damage Sega Dreamcast.  My point was about a AMD zen architecture portable announcemnt damaging Switch launch numbers but also a repackaged Vita along the lines of Switch as an option that could damage Switch sales purely on the basis that it would be a Vita phone which is more portable. So less powerful home console when docked but more convenient portable device. 

You take your phone to work/school etc you get home and place it in the dock and can run all the same apps, games, media with TV output. It's if anything better than Switch in concept. One device for all and streams ps4 content which can be in another room. I think its a good concept. When docked it also charges up the phone for the next day of use and being lower powered one charge lasts all day.  Vita games aren't bad.  If the Switch concept proves successful its a good parallel concept for Sony to cash in on but with a weaker phone rather than a tablet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7X7QRyiWg

 

Except what defeats your whole argument is that PS2 was an actual platform that would come out not what you suggested earliar of a made up announcement to cancel later on. AMD have nothing in the portable market that compares to Tegra that's a dead give away right there an announcement like that would only strengthen the Switch, Nvidia right now are really the only ones who offer not only what is in the switch but what can compete with it as a hybrid device.

You don't go to work and School to play Skyrim and so on, this is a common argument that is flawed because those envirionments generally have never favoured any dedicated gaming device, Vita has been long buried by the 3DS so what really makes you think repackaging it will help it fair against the Switch? Sony already have gaming phones and such as well they've all flopped plus they would be in competition with iPhones etc... as well going that route and not only that Sony have struggled to support two devices in the same way Nintendo did only Sony gave up on Vita in the second year, to do what you're saying they'd have to start dividing their resources again.

Finally what's your point on Vita games? Wii U has games as well so? The games on the platforms didn't change the situation at all so saying Vita has games and linking a countdown does nothing to change the fact that as a product it's outmatched to the point Sony left it to die, only thing right now that would damage Switch's launch is pricing because straight up between 3DS and Wii U the are 75m potential customers and it wouldn't be hard for 2m of that userbase to give Switch a good launch especially as early adopters as even Wii U sold 2m in the first few months. Only announcement that dictates how well the launch goes would be the pricing.

Pretty sure I've read the Zen architecture will be available in low power devices including tablet formats. Its 14mn fabrication process and lets say a 500 gflops radeon gpu and dual thread dual core cpu would be very effective and low power.  My point is it could be cancelled once its damaged Nintendo Switch launch but also could be a completely viable new format capable of running ps4 games with less graphic fidelity.  It's technology not available to Nintendo because of their launch window but would be realistic later in the year.

The Vita phone would be vita compatible with vita games so it would be a phone with a pretty respectable software library.  Switch is a new format without a large existing software library.  The Vita phone would also be available I'm sure from many mobile retailers etc.  I certainly think there is the potential for it to do good business as part of the Playstation family.  Vita performance is now possible with great battery life making it a more effective portable. Many sony portables were just too powerful in the past making them less effective portable gaming systems because battery runtime was too short.

 

Relatively cheap mobile phone with gaming performance

Docks for charging and basic home console/media system

Good battery life

Faster when docked.

Streams ps4 and ps3 games 

Works with ps4 and ps3 controllers

Takes standard micro sd cards

Also takes vita cartridges.