Clearly exclusivity deals have not helped any franchises so far, including SFV, ROTR, Titanfall, ZombiU etc.

You can't just look at previous month's gaps and say that this month's gap isn't good. That is some serious downplay. October is usually a smaller month and gaps are smaller because of that. Almost 100k gap in October is very good.

Also Pro was always due for November, don't know where you are hearing an original October release.

I seam to recall a lot of Sony guys saying PS4 would win October. With  psvr and the PS4slim(don't recall when it released, late September/early October). Short memory indead. Also I don't have a big problem with those gears numbers, it's down from judgement a little but digital is much higher, and it had 4 day early play with digital, and play anywhere.

Wait, you tell me i cant just look at previous months gaps then tell me how octover is "usually" a slow month?

Anyways, slow month or not you should at the very least look at what games are being released and if there are any bundles. For October MS had a bundle for both Gears of war and Battlefeild 1 and both games came in that same month. 

Would u consider September a slow month? wanna guess how many PS4s Sony sold with the destiny bundle? Which mind you as a new IP. 

There is no downplaying here. Gears was XB1 supposedly biggest game for the year. And then they had a deal for Battlefeild 1 all in the same month. 90k isn't that impressive at all. 

So is there a chance SuMo being the number 1 game in US for the Year? If IW dropa alot it has a chance

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Who won the month or didnt win the month isnt what im talking about. So i dont know how that applies to me. No one is here saying MS didnt do good or desrrve the win. That would be silly, same way how it would be silly to think that a $400 peripheral would have somehow increased the sales of a $300 PS4.

What I'm saying is that I would have expected more than 90k+ gap. All considering. October was the best shot MS had at actually beating the PS4 and beating them in such a way it could make a proper dent on their overall lead in NA at least for this year. Unless of course by some random miracle they win November and December too. 

The thing is early in the year everyone expected PS4 to outsell the Xbox One and not jujst by a small margin, Around this site all the Sony side were saying that Xbox One wouldn't win another month after August this year and the users who look at the bigger picture were expecting close margins in either sides favour through September and October which turned out bigger than most people thought in favour of the Xbox One.

It's not really about Xbox beating the PS4 across the entire 2016 as I said it's expected but rather Sony need to answer this November with big numbers pushing 1.8m-2m at a minimum imo to show that the PS4 Pro did infact take a lot of orders away from the PS4 slim in September/October and they are not loosing some of the momentum whilst Xbox is gaining it, If they don't hit them numbers and outsell Xbox One by 500k I'd consider it a big let down for Sony.

Sun and Moon will be a big success. I think that it will be able to make up for the difference of sales  between  IWand Black Ops 3 

I agree with you. If sony doesn't beat MS by at lewst 500k over novemeber and december i would also look at that as a disappointment. 

If you meant 500k in the month of November alone though that's not being very realistic. Especially when you consider that the sales difference over the months of September and October is around just 150k. And those are the months we can say that the PS4pro cannibalized sales. I don't see why Sony needs to sell 500k more in the minth of November alone. 200-300k more would be enough.