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Clinton will win though. I just cant see Trump as president.



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I think this video explains (humorously) why so many people are so sick of Clinton (and Trump). And this is coming from a very left leaning personality.



KLXVER said:
Clinton will win though. I just cant see Trump as president.

I'd be very shocked if Trump manages to win.

OT: The easiest and shortest reason: she's a shady character. I have no idea what could have been in the emails, and I frankly don't believe it was Putin's porno file or anything that would break loose WW III, but she had to be hiding something.

Besides that, she seems like any other politicians. A lot of talk and promises, probably won't fulfill that many. I wonder which candidate also sounds like that



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I dislike Clinton, but even i realize that another typical politician is better than a man with no experience and has several hundred million dollars of avoided taxes

I suppose I just dislike her policies, especially when it comes with kissing up to Israel and tensions with Russia.

I'm not voting so I will promise myself to not complain. IF I AM WRONG, THEN I'M WRONG. Simple as that. Maybe hillary ends up being decent like Obama

I just wish both trump and Hillary knew what they were doing for science and racial issues



 

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Veknoid_Outcast said:
I'm going to make my post then get the hell out of here.

I think a lot of it comes from people who take all the lies and conspiracy theories from far-right publications and personalities as gospel. The Clintons have been hounded for 25 years by the Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys of the world, and the Republican establishment made it their job to tarnish Hillary Clinton's reputation once it became clear she was the heir apparent.

Does Clinton have baggage? Hell yes. What politician who's been in the game for decades doesn't? She was sloppy with her private server, she's hawkish, and she's made some unsavory alliances. She's not perfect. Can someone point out a political candidate who is?

The other aspect, and I hate to say it, is that she's a she. Just as President Obama's rise to power revealed the nasty racism that simmers under the surface in America, Clinton's rise to power has revealed a lot of backward thinking about the role and responsibility of women.

This isn't true.

Maybe with some people, but a very very small % give a damn what gender Hillary is and a very very small % of people give a damn what race Obama is.  Now if you actually read that and didn't roll your eyes and start replying already, then you might have a chance of listening to me.   Republicans haven't like Democrats policies forever, and Democrats haven't liked Republicans policies either.  But now when a Republican speaks out about the policies of Obama or Hillary they are countered with "You're a racist/sexist" which is actually a clever tactic to deflect the actual issues and paint the opposer as a hateful villan.  It's not about race, it's about policy and belief.   Even when a Ben Carson or Michael Steel pops up in the Republican party the Democrats call them "uncle toms" and "token black dudes".  So please, when it comes to election day we are all by a vast majority electing our President based on their policies and beliefs, not on their race or gender.

Also the issue isn't just about emails, it's much much beyond that.  The emails is just the first layer of it and moreso the distraction.  The problem is what was deleted on those emails, what information was being hid from his.  Her current excuse is that it was 33,000 emails about her daughters wedding and yoga classes.  Nobody with half a brain actually believes that as a valid claim, it shows she's hiding.    If you've read through the Wikileaks and such you find out that she has a web of corruption that reaches several departments of the government and has helped her entirely rig the primaries to get the nomination.  There was no point of even having a primary as they already annointed her as the Democratic canidate.  That is not democracy, she wasn't chosen by the people she was chosen by the establishment (where Trump is the difference).

They have found several instances of her taking bribes (they rephrased that as "pay for play") from several companies and foriegn agencies to get things done.  She gets money into The Clinton Foundation in a donation form and then she turns around and gives Russia 20% of our Uranium (but then tells us that Trump is buddy-buddy with Russia).  Look into what she did with Haiti, she capitalized on that earthquake and took bribes to choose who to contract out on relief work.   She claims she's for women's rights and gay rights but she takes $25million from Saudi Arabia.  In their wikileaks it's admitted by her team that they know Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS, yet she still takes their money and brokers weapons deals with Saudi Arabia (which are likely being used against us, but she doesn't care she got paid).   Her leadership with Benghazi was horrible, she did not respond or help on something like 600 requests for help or more security from the embassy over there, ignored it.  Then Ambassador Stevens was murdered in an attack....so his requests for help were warranted.   After that happened Obama and Hillary (obama was up for election) covered up the fact they asked for help and didn't respond and LIED, PROVEN LIE that they believe it was caused by sudden outrage of a YouTube video and was not a planned attack.  PROVEN LIE.  Remember LIES LIES LIES.  Hillary said she did not have any classified information on her server, that turned out to be a LIE.  She was subponeaed to hand over her emails and THEN had them deleted by her private IT guy with a program called BleachBit...he claims he did it on accident, but his reddit account was found and he was asking because his BOSS wanted them deleted.  LIES LIES and more LIES.  Bill Clinton meeting up with the Attorney General before they determine to prosecute her or not, very suspciouis.  Colluding with the media, especially CNN and Huffington Post, giving Hillary the debate questions ahead of time, the New York Times lets Hillary veto any quotes or stories if she doesn't like them and the Huffington Post and CNN also asking what questions and information they'd like seen used against her opponents.      Watch Clinton Cash on YouTube.   There's also speculation that Assad didn't even gas his own people, and that Hillary & Obama gave chemical weapons to the rebels and they used it on the people, then the US used that as a spring board to get "involved" in the war, they framed Assad (this one is speculation/rumor).  But it is FACT ISIS grew to power under her watch and she helped arm them.  THIS IS WHY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HILLARY NOT JUST BECAUSE OF SOME SIMPLE EMAIL MISHANDLING.......might wanna throw in she has threatened military force against Russia for hacking when it isn't proven Russia hacked her or not, but it is still a result of her mishandling of classified information...if a door is left  open and unlocked and the house gets robbed there is an understandable reason to be mad at the thief, but it's the fault of the homeowners poor judgement that caused this problem.



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I don't think Clinton is a very likeable person, she also did some stupid things. many people actually are voting on who they like most, but there are a lot of people from the US that I have seen just disliking both main candidates lol, horrible election this year.

edit; I don't personally "hate" clinton altough I do find her untrustworthy and a bad candidate.




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malistix1985 said:

I don't think Clinton is a very likeable person, she also did some stupid things. many people actually are voting on who they like most, but there are a lot of people from the US that I have seen just disliking both main candidates lol, horrible election this year.

edit; I don't personally "hate" clinton altough I do find her untrustworthy and a bad candidate.

I find it weird that in almost every picture of her it looks like someone took her head and put it of a different body. Its a bit creepy.



MTZehvor said:

I think this video explains (humorously) why so many people are so sick of Clinton (and Trump). And this is coming from a very left leaning personality.

LoL! That was a pretty good video! I love Noah



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DanneSandin said:

I don't think I've ever made a political thread yet, and hopefully this will be my last one, depending on the out come of the election in the USA today.

This has been a very close election, and the out come isn't sure at all. None of the candidates seem to have a huge backing, and people are talking about voting for the "lesser evil" in both cases. I understand why you wouldn't vote for Trump, he's a lunatic, a mad man, a child in a mans body. There's so many things that's wrong with him. So I get why you wouldn't vote for him.

But Hillary? What is the deal with all the hate Hillary gets? Is it all about those emails? Or is there something else? I don't get it.

Can someone in a nice and civil matter please explain to me why people hate Hillary Clinton so much?

Because the Republicans have been running negative campaigns against her for over 20 years.  Virtually everyone on the Right associates that negativity towards her to varying degrees.

In addition to this, she isn't charismatic.  She comes across as highly insincere and she hasn't managed to define herself by a consistent set of pinciples.  Compare this to Obama, who stuck with a message of hope, change, and diplomatic cooperation.  Bernie was about income inequality.  It's hard to picture what Hillary is the champion of despite having 20 years to make that clear.

In short, she has allowed herself to be defined by her adversaries so her scandals hurt her more and her successes are more suspect.  If she was as charismatic as her husband, she could at least win hearts and minds on the Left, but she isn't charismatic.  General dissatisfaction with the status quo just makes the current environment a perfect storm against her likeability. 



I think no matter what anyone writes about either candidates. People on both sides will act like their favorite candidate does no wrong and say the other side is lying and making up false claims,no one listens on either side :(



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