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aLkaLiNE on 28 October 2016
Miyamotoo said:

I really don't see that like some big achievement, despite Halo 5 was released 1.5 year earlier, PS4 has twice bigger instal base than XB1.

Despite? I don't think the time at retail metric is something that should be brushed aside like that. As you're aware, Halo 5 has been out a year almost to this day while uncharted 4 has been available 5 and a half months. This is coupled with the fact that Master Chief is basically the mascot of Xbox where as PlayStation spreads their focus on franchises out a little bit thinner, as evidenced by their lack of a mascot but greater output of first party titles.



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Miyamotoo on 28 October 2016
aLkaLiNE said:
Miyamotoo said:

I really don't see that like some big achievement, despite Halo 5 was released 1.5 year earlier, PS4 has twice bigger instal base than XB1.

Despite? I don't think the time at retail metric is something that should be brushed aside like that. As you're aware, Halo 5 has been out a year almost to this day while uncharted 4 has been available 5 and a half months. This is coupled with the fact that Master Chief is basically the mascot of Xbox where as PlayStation spreads their focus on franchises out a little bit thinner, as evidenced by their lack of a mascot but greater output of first party titles.

Games have best sales in 1st 6 months of launch, so yes 1.5 year more time is much lesser factor for sale of game than having twice bigger instal base.



Miyamotoo on 28 October 2016
bevochan said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
PS4 has sold twice as many consoles than the Xbox One. PS4 larger user base is helping the sales of Uncharted 4. 10% of PS4 owners have purchased Uncharted 4. 20% of Xbox One owners have purchased Halo 5.

Halo 5 has been out twice as long compared to Uncharted 4.  Halo 5 has been out for 1 year and has sales number boosted from 2015 Christmas season.  Uncharted 4 has only been out for 6 months, and has yet to have the sales boost from Christmas.  After this Christmas season, Uncharted 4 should really pull ahead.   

And PS4 has just twice bigger instal base, that means twice more possible buyers.



Azzanation on 28 October 2016
Normchacho said:
Azzanation said:

No. Its a misleading headline and more hardware sold leads to more potential sales regardless on how people try to twist it. 

Halo 5 has sold over 5m units and it did that months ago. So those saying UC4 has outsold H5 are grasping at straws. There is no different to a phyical sales customer and a digital one. 

Funny how its been avoided because Sony would have announced UC4 selling over 5m if it reached that mile stone.

End of day is H5 has sold over 5m units so whats the point of this article apart from grasping at straws to claim a victory of something which is false anyway because again H5 is well over 5m now. 

More hardware sold = higher protential sales. Ask any buisness man that.

Is that 5 million sold through or shipped? Because game shipments are way less common than console shipments outside of the launch window. A January 2016 shipment of the game could be all of the games stock for 2016.

 

When you claim that it's sold better than Uncharted 4 you're making some big assumptions.

 

You also didn't seem to read the parts of my post where  I say that userbase has an effect on sales, or where I talk about  Uncharted 4 being on the market for less than half the time Halo 5 has been.

How can you ship digital sales? Its been confirmed by 343 that Halo 5 has sold over 5million units. 4million physical at the time which leads to be 1million worth of Digital sales.

Here help yourself

http://wccftech.com/halo-5-sold-5-million-copies-within-3-months/

Userbase plays a massive roll on sales, and considering Halo 5 being one of the worst selling Halo games in the franchise, and UC4 being the best PS4 game on the market and they come out sqaure on sales.. (excluding Digital) that is a compliment to Halo not UC4.

Heres a good stat for the people in this thread.

1 in every 4 XB1 owners has Halo 5

1 in every 8 PS4 owners has UC4

Now until Sony claims UC4 has sold over 5million units, than at this very point in time, Halo 5 has sold more than UC4. This Article and its headline is misleading.



Swordmasterman on 28 October 2016
Miyamotoo said:
aLkaLiNE said:

Despite? I don't think the time at retail metric is something that should be brushed aside like that. As you're aware, Halo 5 has been out a year almost to this day while uncharted 4 has been available 5 and a half months. This is coupled with the fact that Master Chief is basically the mascot of Xbox where as PlayStation spreads their focus on franchises out a little bit thinner, as evidenced by their lack of a mascot but greater output of first party titles.

Games have best sales in 1st 6 months of launch, so yes 1.5 year more time is much lesser factor for sale of game than having twice bigger instal base.

Games sell  only a fraction of what they usually sell on a holidays month...



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Lauster on 28 October 2016
Azzanation said:
Normchacho said:

Is that 5 million sold through or shipped? Because game shipments are way less common than console shipments outside of the launch window. A January 2016 shipment of the game could be all of the games stock for 2016.

 

When you claim that it's sold better than Uncharted 4 you're making some big assumptions.

 

You also didn't seem to read the parts of my post where  I say that userbase has an effect on sales, or where I talk about  Uncharted 4 being on the market for less than half the time Halo 5 has been.

How can you ship digital sales? Its been confirmed by 343 that Halo 5 has sold over 5million units. 4million physical at the time which leads to be 1million worth of Digital sales.

Here help yourself

http://wccftech.com/halo-5-sold-5-million-copies-within-3-months/

Userbase plays a massive roll on sales, and considering Halo 5 being one of the worst selling Halo games in the franchise, and UC4 being the best PS4 game on the market and they come out sqaure on sales.. (excluding Digital) that is a compliment to Halo not UC4.

Heres a good stat for the people in this thread.

1 in every 4 XB1 owners has Halo 5

1 in every 8 PS4 owners has UC4

Now until Sony claims UC4 has sold over 5million units, than at this very point in time, Halo 5 has sold more than UC4. This Article and its headline is misleading.

A digital sale has always been considered as a "sale in" and not a "sale through", thus 5M shipped to vendors (retail) and players (digital).



Swordmasterman on 28 October 2016
Azzanation said:
Normchacho said:

Is that 5 million sold through or shipped? Because game shipments are way less common than console shipments outside of the launch window. A January 2016 shipment of the game could be all of the games stock for 2016.

 

When you claim that it's sold better than Uncharted 4 you're making some big assumptions.

 

You also didn't seem to read the parts of my post where  I say that userbase has an effect on sales, or where I talk about  Uncharted 4 being on the market for less than half the time Halo 5 has been.

How can you ship digital sales? Its been confirmed by 343 that Halo 5 has sold over 5million units. 4million physical at the time which leads to be 1million worth of Digital sales.

Here help yourself

http://wccftech.com/halo-5-sold-5-million-copies-within-3-months/

Userbase plays a massive roll on sales, and considering Halo 5 being one of the worst selling Halo games in the franchise, and UC4 being the best PS4 game on the market and they come out sqaure on sales.. (excluding Digital) that is a compliment to Halo not UC4.

Heres a good stat for the people in this thread.

1 in every 4 XB1 owners has Halo 5

1 in every 8 PS4 owners has UC4

Now until Sony claims UC4 has sold over 5million units, than at this very point in time, Halo 5 has sold more than UC4. This Article and its headline is misleading.

That isn't Microsoft's PR. The only thing that we know  is that Uncharted 4 sold 2.7 millions 1 week worldwide without bundle, but with Digital.

Those sales numbers are from Gaf.



Jazz2K on 28 October 2016

I think we should congratulate Uncharted for the feat!

To those who say userbase isn't a big factor though... imagine X1 would be 40m and PS4 at 20m... I'm about sure 1 in 5 X1 owner would still own H5 relusting in about 8m while 1 in 8 PS4 owner would be getting U4 resulting in 2.8m... this is grasping at straws I know and we wouldn't know unless we enter an alternate universe but imo it shows that userbase does matter.

I would congratulate U4 when they have done better than other Uncharted though, same as for Halo.



DonFerrari on 28 October 2016

 

Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

Define noticeably better (and of course ignore that the other sw launched on a holiday and had 3x the time to sell). And while at that comprove your thesis instead of just throwing assumptions. Halo 3 sold 50% more than Halo 4 and was in less than half of that userbase, sold 3x more than Halo 5 and were in a 1/3 of the userbase... so how noticeably better would it done with the other userbase? Perhaps nothing?

No... PS3 at first had 0 HW versus what X360 already had from 1,5 year ww advantage and it took quite some years for the userbase to be similar.

To define "Noticeably better", at least 50% better sales, theoretically it could 100% better sales.

Like I wrote,  I really dont see point of comparing sales of 2 games on two platforms where one has twice bigger instal base.

 

 

Hynad said:

Splatoon and MK8 are selling on a console with a userbase composed almost exclusively of people who'd buy anything as long as it's made by Nintendo.

Relly!? Than look at sales of Mario Tennis, Amiibo Festival, Kirby and for instance Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars, reality is that great Nintendo games have great sales. And Splatoon having better sales than Smash Bros definitely telling something.

Do you have any number to show that doubling userbase increase 50% the sale of a franchise?

Jazz2K said:
I think we should congratulate Uncharted for the feat!

To those who say userbase isn't a big factor though... imagine X1 would be 40m and PS4 at 20m... I'm about sure 1 in 5 X1 owner would still own H5 relusting in about 8m while 1 in 8 PS4 owner would be getting U4 resulting in 2.8m... this is grasping at straws I know and we wouldn't know unless we enter an alternate universe but imo it shows that userbase does matter.

I would congratulate U4 when they have done better than other Uncharted though, same as for Halo.

Yet X360 more than doubled the userbase from Halo 3 to Halo 4 and sales dropped 30%, so no, there is nothing to grant 20% of userbase would own H5 and 10% UC4 independent of the userbase. Considering both are platform holder games made to push HW, Halo not making X1 sales accelerate just shows how the interest diminished. Halo were growing franchise from 1 to 3 and then declined with 343, it's as simple as that. While Uncharted is still on the rise.



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Miyamotoo on 28 October 2016
DonFerrari said:

 

Miyamotoo said:

To define "Noticeably better", at least 50% better sales, theoretically it could 100% better sales.

Like I wrote,  I really dont see point of comparing sales of 2 games on two platforms where one has twice bigger instal base.

 

 

Relly!? Than look at sales of Mario Tennis, Amiibo Festival, Kirby and for instance Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars, reality is that great Nintendo games have great sales. And Splatoon having better sales than Smash Bros definitely telling something.

Do you have any number to show that doubling userbase increase 50% the sale of a franchise?

 

 

 

I dont talk about franchises, and thats relly hard to prove but thats a simple logic, game will sell better on bigger instal base than on smaller, clear fact. Imagine that PS4 has instal base of around 20m, logical assumption would be that U4 would sell around 2m instead of 4m on 40m instal base.