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Goodnightmoon on 24 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
Goodnightmoon said:

So we should be making a drama just in case the game doesn't come ... even when nobody has said it isn't coming, how about judging things when they actually happen? But no, some seem too desperate to wait for reality to happen since that may break their narratives.

... we are judging things when things happen. Nintendo just came out and said we shouldn't assume anythingwe saw represents actual Switch game footage. We are commenting on the implications of what that means.

But intentionally focusing on the worst possible implications it could have instead of the most likely ones.



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StarOcean on 24 October 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
StarOcean said:

I think people are reading too much into this. Nintendo only wants to reveal their console this year and because that they only showed placeholder games like MK8 and such. Even the actor who worked on set said the TVs and such were blank. The footage was added after the fact. The intention was only to show off the console, not the games. Similar to the Wii U Zelda demo

But the console is coming out in March. You would have thought they could have used third party games that are actually coming to the console.

Not if they want to keep it secret still, which they seem intent on doing. It's done all the time in marketing



Nautilus on 24 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
StarOcean said:

I think people are reading too much into this. Nintendo only wants to reveal their console this year and because that they only showed placeholder games like MK8 and such. Even the actor who worked on set said the TVs and such were blank. The footage was added after the fact. The intention was only to show off the console, not the games. Similar to the Wii U Zelda demo

You know, you'd totally have a point, execept the Switch is releasing in 5 months. In comparison, imagine announcing a game at E3, showing a trailer that gives the impression of gameplay footage, and then coming out after the E3 announcement and stating "you shouldn't assume what you saw on the E3 trailer represents actual gameplay footage".

Ohh wait, that kinda did happen with titles like Alien: Colonial Marines. Lawsuits were filed over that.  I think that's how the phrase "bullshots" game to be. It was a big deal. Why should Nintendo get a free pass if that turns out to be the case here?

Its written at the end of the trailer that "game images are not final and may not represent that game" or something of the like.No9body is being misleading here.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

potato_hamster on 24 October 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
potato_hamster said:

... we are judging things when things happen. Nintendo just came out and said we shouldn't assume anythingwe saw represents actual Switch game footage. We are commenting on the implications of what that means.

But intentionally focusing on the worst possible implications it could have instead of the most likely ones.

I could easil say you're intentionally focusing on the best possible implications instead of the most likely ones.

Again, this door swings both ways, and you continue to pass off your opinion as if it is fact.



DonFerrari on 24 October 2016
StarOcean said:
DonFerrari said:

If people learnt that we wouldn't be seeing the amount of hype and rumour threads we got for more than 1 year.

That's true

A 2x as powerfull as PS4 on the portable device is like crazy guy stuff but there are people that would believe in it and then would complain at nintendo for not releasing it for under 200.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Zoombael on 24 October 2016
KLXVER said:
onionberry said:

maybe because breath of the wild was running at 12 fps, but was a simulated screen not the device itself.

Why would they simulate a screen of a game running in 12fps?

For the Lulz.



Hunting Season is done...

potato_hamster on 24 October 2016
Nautilus said:
potato_hamster said:

You know, you'd totally have a point, execept the Switch is releasing in 5 months. In comparison, imagine announcing a game at E3, showing a trailer that gives the impression of gameplay footage, and then coming out after the E3 announcement and stating "you shouldn't assume what you saw on the E3 trailer represents actual gameplay footage".

Ohh wait, that kinda did happen with titles like Alien: Colonial Marines. Lawsuits were filed over that.  I think that's how the phrase "bullshots" game to be. It was a big deal. Why should Nintendo get a free pass if that turns out to be the case here?

Its written at the end of the trailer that "game images are not final and may not represent that game" or something of the like.No9body is being misleading here.

I'm sure similar disclaimers worked out well for Alien: Colonial Marines.



DonFerrari on 24 October 2016
Nautilus said:
potato_hamster said:

You know, you'd totally have a point, execept the Switch is releasing in 5 months. In comparison, imagine announcing a game at E3, showing a trailer that gives the impression of gameplay footage, and then coming out after the E3 announcement and stating "you shouldn't assume what you saw on the E3 trailer represents actual gameplay footage".

Ohh wait, that kinda did happen with titles like Alien: Colonial Marines. Lawsuits were filed over that.  I think that's how the phrase "bullshots" game to be. It was a big deal. Why should Nintendo get a free pass if that turns out to be the case here?

Its written at the end of the trailer that "game images are not final and may not represent that game" or something of the like.No9body is being misleading here.

Fine letters are almost the exact definition of misleading, because you show one thing with the intent of other and make very little effort to prevent the confusion.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Conina on 24 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Except this is objectively not a big deal, just something common that everybody does, things of this teaser are subject to change, oh what a disaster.

Opinions are never objective things.

Tell me, can you objectively say with 100% certainty at this point that Skyrim HD Remastered is coming to the Nintendo Switch? I"m not saying likely, I'm not saying "well I don't think Nintendo would do that". I'm saying can you say that you know for a fact that that Skyrim HD Remastered is coming to the Nintendo Switch.

No you cannot.

Of course you can be 100% sure that Skyrim Enhanced will be released for the Switch. And of course you can be 100% sure that it won't be downgraded in any way compared to the XBO or PS4 versions.

Just like you could be 100% sure that the PS Vita would get a Bioshock game or that the Wii U would get Project Cars / Colonial Marines or that the PS3 would get the Last Guardian or that the PS4 would get Silent Hills or that the Xbox One would get Fable Legends or ... shall I go on?

No developer or console manufacturer would ever dare to back out of such a promise with excuses like "it didn't work out" or "it was a misunderstanding" or something like that!



Nautilus on 24 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
Nautilus said:

Its written at the end of the trailer that "game images are not final and may not represent that game" or something of the like.No9body is being misleading here.

I'm sure similar disclaimers worked out well for Alien: Colonial Marines.

 

DonFerrari said:
Nautilus said:

Its written at the end of the trailer that "game images are not final and may not represent that game" or something of the like.No9body is being misleading here.

Fine letters are almost the exact definition of misleading, because you show one thing with the intent of other and make very little effort to prevent the confusion.

As any other game could.Its good to be skeptical, but too much of it will just make you paranoid.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1