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Lawlight said:
Nautilus said:

Which still made it sell great?Dropping prices and adjusting to the market is a viable action, you know.Or are you gonna say that the Switch will be considered a failure if it dosent sell well in the first 6 months, even if it goes to sell 100+ million lifetime?

Of course not but the original 3DS didn't sell huge numbers, didn't it? The XL came out the year after release.

A bit after that yeah, but whats the point?Its not like the normal 3DS stop selling, much to the contrary actually since they still sell nowadays, and all systems do that and tend to be more successful then the previous version, usually because they are the standard version going foward.

I dont get your angle to be honest.What is your point with this comparison?You have been trying to downplay at every single turn the Switch at anything, even the points that you cant put any negative on it, and making nonsensical comparisons with the 3DS(which makes the Switch looks good) for what reason?Do seeing people happy about a Nintendo product hurt your feeling in some way?I mean, it must be it, because I cant see any other reason.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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potato_hamster said:

Even if true, that could mean there's nothing more than an upscaling chip/HDMI processing chip in the base.

It doesn't mean that it's going to make games run better.

Personally, I think that's what the dock is for.  Rumors I read were stating the minimum res Nintendo allows is 540p, though I'm guessing that 720p is going to be the norm.  In the gaming world where 1080p is the norm, and people are going to be upgrading to the Pro for 4K, outputting in only 720p is not going to be acceptable, which is where I think the dock comes in.  Whether it has its own chipset or it simple allows the NS to be upclocked, I'm guessing any extra power is just going to be used to output at a higher res.

Also, WTF is wrong with you Nintendo?  You announce your console for launch in 5 months, yet are going to wait til just 2 1/2 months before launch to announce any actual info about it?  Not saying they have to give a rundown of the specs, though that would be nice in a market where the 4.2 TFLOPS Pro will already be out, but you won't even give the price, battery life, or say what all the functions of the dock are?  OR EVEN IF THE DAMN SCREEN IS TOUCH ENABLED?  For their sake I hope it is, otherwise they can kiss that casual crowd goodbye, especially if it's not going to be getting mobile game ports.  But why act like this is some big thing to keep secret?



thismeintiel said:
potato_hamster said:

Even if true, that could mean there's nothing more than an upscaling chip/HDMI processing chip in the base.

It doesn't mean that it's going to make games run better.

Personally, I think that's what the dock is for.  Rumors I read were stating the minimum res Nintendo allows is 540p, though I'm guessing that 720p is going to be the norm.  In the gaming world where 1080p is the norm, and people are going to be upgrading to the Pro for 4K, outputting in only 720p is not going to be acceptable, which is where I think the dock comes in.  Whether it has its own chipset or it simple allows the NS to be upclocked, I'm guessing any extra power is just going to be used to output at a higher res.

Also, WTF is wrong with you Nintendo?  You announce your console for launch in 5 months, yet are going to wait til just 2 1/2 months before launch to announce any actual info about it?  Not saying they have to give a rundown of the specs, though that would be nice in a market where the 4.2 TFLOPS Pro will already be out, but you won't even give the price, battery life, or say what all the functions of the dock are?  OR EVEN IF THE DAMN SCREEN IS TOUCH ENABLED?  For their sake I hope it is, otherwise they can kiss that casual crowd goodbye, especially if it's not going to be getting mobile game ports.  But why act like this is some big thing to keep secret?

Why market something 3 months after the holiday rush when the holiday rush is taking place? That's probably their mentality. If that's good or bad is debatable. Personally, I think it's smart considering how quick information spread these days and seeing how successful the trailer has trended online and has gained 11 million views in less than 2 days.



Not sure if stated yet but Laura got that source from Ubisoft. I tweeted her for more info and she said the Ubisoft mainly has knowledge of the dev kit's battery life. Make that what you will:



Of course it will be more powerful when docked as there are two restraining factors on EACH device: electric power consumption and heat. When on power line Switch is only limited by how fast the chips heat can be exchanged into air. So I would expect the dock to include an extra fan... . As Switch is using an integrated CPU/GPU chip I wouldn't be surprised if the RAM is also on the same chip – this is the reason why smartphones have those incredible graphics power and next gen HMB PC GPUs will leapfrog the older generations.
I'm really hyped for Switch – the only thing I would like to know if the WiiMote+/Nunchuck can also be used and how Splatoon will play without having a second screen...



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the Switch hasn't even been officially rolled out, anything regarding battery life is nonsense at this point and pure speculation



t3mporary_126 said:
thismeintiel said:

Personally, I think that's what the dock is for.  Rumors I read were stating the minimum res Nintendo allows is 540p, though I'm guessing that 720p is going to be the norm.  In the gaming world where 1080p is the norm, and people are going to be upgrading to the Pro for 4K, outputting in only 720p is not going to be acceptable, which is where I think the dock comes in.  Whether it has its own chipset or it simple allows the NS to be upclocked, I'm guessing any extra power is just going to be used to output at a higher res.

Also, WTF is wrong with you Nintendo?  You announce your console for launch in 5 months, yet are going to wait til just 2 1/2 months before launch to announce any actual info about it?  Not saying they have to give a rundown of the specs, though that would be nice in a market where the 4.2 TFLOPS Pro will already be out, but you won't even give the price, battery life, or say what all the functions of the dock are?  OR EVEN IF THE DAMN SCREEN IS TOUCH ENABLED?  For their sake I hope it is, otherwise they can kiss that casual crowd goodbye, especially if it's not going to be getting mobile game ports.  But why act like this is some big thing to keep secret?

Why market something 3 months after the holiday rush when the holiday rush is taking place? That's probably their mentality. If that's good or bad is debatable. Personally, I think it's smart considering how quick information spread these days and seeing how successful the trailer has trended online and has gained 11 million views in less than 2 days.

I think it's not very smart.  I mean you have a console launching not that far from the holiday season, a time when there are going to be great deals on tablets, phones, and consoles.  Why not get out the info, now, so people can decide if they want to hold off on a holiday purchase/gift and instead wait for the NS?  At least the price and whether or not it will have a touchscreen and will be getting ports of mobile games.  If they are going to try and get the casual crowd, they may be losing quite a few sales from people who will be getting a really nice tablet/phone for Xmas.  Will it be as powerful as the NS?  Most likely not.  But it will play any mobile game you throw it.



I've been saying passive cooling as a portable and active cooling when docked for a long time but going by those development specs it may not even need active cooling it may simply be like a laptop where you have a performance plan with everything at full speed and a battery saver plan where everything is dialed back. Saying that the dock is shaped like a toaster so the tablet is in close contact for most of the surface which is ideal for active cooling. It may be Nintendo have opted again for a cheaper fabrication process which means it will run hotter and be more power hungry then active cooling would be important. No way are Nintendo going to put extra processing power in the dock because that is not cost efficient and would be wasted money. We know that would not be their approach because they cost everything down to the bare minimum.



thismeintiel said:
t3mporary_126 said:

Why market something 3 months after the holiday rush when the holiday rush is taking place? That's probably their mentality. If that's good or bad is debatable. Personally, I think it's smart considering how quick information spread these days and seeing how successful the trailer has trended online and has gained 11 million views in less than 2 days.

I think it's not very smart.  I mean you have a console launching not that far from the holiday season, a time when there are going to be great deals on tablets, phones, and consoles.  Why not get out the info, now, so people can decide if they want to hold off on a holiday purchase/gift and instead wait for the NS?  At least the price and whether or not it will have a touchscreen and will be getting ports of mobile games.  If they are going to try and get the casual crowd, they may be losing quite a few sales from people who will be getting a really nice tablet/phone for Xmas.  Will it be as powerful as the NS?  Most likely not.  But it will play any mobile game you throw it.

I understand that part. But most people want to buy something in the holiday rush to gift to others or for themselves because of the crazy holiday deal mentality. Telling people, "Hey don't forget to buy MY thing too! It's NOT ready NOW or by CHRISTMAS, so ignore all those cool deals when mine is new and expensive!" when people want to buy something right there and then isn't very good. People may tune out of the info and the expensive marketing during the holiday rush will go to waste. Better save that marketing for Jan - March when no new video game tech is getting released and few big games are coming out.

In anyways, this March release was cutting it close anyway. 



bonzobanana said:
I've been saying passive cooling as a portable and active cooling when docked for a long time but going by those development specs it may not even need active cooling it may simply be like a laptop where you have a performance plan with everything at full speed and a battery saver plan where everything is dialed back. Saying that the dock is shaped like a toaster so the tablet is in close contact for most of the surface which is ideal for active cooling. It may be Nintendo have opted again for a cheaper fabrication process which means it will run hotter and be more power hungry then active cooling would be important. No way are Nintendo going to put extra processing power in the dock because that is not cost efficient and would be wasted money. We know that would not be their approach because they cost everything down to the bare minimum.

There are what clearly appears to be vents on the top side of the system (to the right of the cartridge slot). I'm guessing it has an active fan.