Soundwave said:
MonkeyDLuffy said:
Hold on, now. Hillary is progressive and Donald is regressive? Now let's look at this. You named some things that you presume Trump wants to implement, and in your mind those are negative things. That's where we would get into a discussion of politics, which isn't exactly what I'm looking to do here. I'm sure you're convinced that a border wall is bad, and we could have a whole separate argument on that. However, what you're talking about here is implementing changes that a certain part of the population wants, or in their eyes, would be seen as PROGRESS. Right?
Given that, what about Hillary represents any progress? I haven't heard any new ideas from her. She just wants to continue what Obama has done, which to me doesn't seem like a good idea. I'm wondering where do you see any progress from her? Keeping Obamacare, which is going bankrupt and was designed to fail? Opening our borders, which would collapse our economy? Further dividing the races, which has given us riots like none of us have seen before in our lifetimes?
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LOL, I'm guessing you weren't alive in the 60s or even aware in the early 90s if you think these "riots" are new and we had some kind of harmony in the past.
Public healthcare is a good option most of the developed world agrees, unfortunately the Republicans allow greedy for profit drug companies to run the US health system and force any type of public option to be slanted towards for profit companies that take advantage of the system.
Wall Street collapsed your economy 8 years ago, not some immigrant willing to work 12 hours a day in blistering heat to put food on the table.
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Oooh boy, now isn't this a fun post!
To your first point, no of course I wasn't alive in the 60s. Were you? That would be pretty strange. That's why I said none of us have seen it in our lifetimes. Anything that happened in the 90s is nowhere near comparable to people burning down their cities, and for such ignorant reasons too, as the police put on trial for the killings have consistently been shown as doing the right thing to stop a threat. The latest nonsense in Milwaukee was when a black cop shot an armed black man who had raised his gun at himi. Standard police procedure of stopping a criminal, and yet they rioted for it. Just complete insanity and dare I say REGRESSION from all the things we've built our nation on.
Then you want to say that the idea of Obamacare is wonderful but it was implemented wrong because of REPUBLICANS! Eve nthough Obama had a supermajority in Congress and was able to pass whatever he wanted, it's still the Republicans' faults. Please, you're so brainwashed and in the can.
As far as launching into the sob story about immigrants breaking their backs to provide for their kids, you're really just digging into the bottom of the barrel here. These aren't immigrants we're talking about, they're illegals. There's a stark difference between an immigrant and an alien. Aliens who come across the border and take our resources and our jobs without paying any taxes are hurting this nation. There are more adult Americans out of work now than in 50 years. The unemployment rate does not give you the full story, as that only measures recently out-of-work people who have applied for unemployment insurance. It does not include people who have given up working. We're in dire straits here, man. The welfare system is being flooded and Americans are struggling badly, and people like you just want to let anyone in, undocumented, and work for no taxes. Because that's some backwards sense of humanity in you, like you're helping those less-privileged. It's wrong and it's hurting Americans.
The real figure you need to look at is the Labor Force Participation Rate. Please read about it here.
http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-force-participation-rate-september-2016-2016-10
It is at 62.9% as of the newest report. It used to be more like 97%. That's how far we've fallen and shows you the real path of destruction that we're on.
