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potato_hamster said:
bunchanumbers said:

I never said anything about anything man. I'm just telling him who the source on this was.

I realize that, just figured I'd put my two cents on what "running" can mean

I agree, you can have a game running but it doesn't mean it is in playable condition. Especially with a new console. The first game usually take a bit and then it doesn't look all that great because you can get it running, and playable but not polished since this is the first game for a new machine the engine isn't fully optimized and that is a process that doesn't get completed until you stop making games for the system since it is a closed system there is usually a few more tricks you can always teach old hardware to do, the problem is it takes time.



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GoOnKid said:
OneTime said:

You might as well argue that horror movies are popular, so Disney should release some horror movies :)

This might be the best comment I've seen in weeks!

Look up the movie Something Wicked this Way Comes

 

Scared me when I was little ... a freaky Disney movie of which there are not many as far as I know.



The_Yoda said:
GoOnKid said:

This might be the best comment I've seen in weeks!

Look up the movie Something Wicked this Way Comes

 

Scared me when I was little ... a freaky Disney movie of which there are not many as far as I know.

I love bringing that movie up, it is the only R rated movie released by Disney, as in Disney itself and not one of its other holding it uses for "mature" content, at the time of this movie coming out would have been touchstone. Freaky movie about the Devil coming to town to steal souls in some very graphic scenes especially if you can find the uncut version. When the rating was bumped up to R by the rating commision in the 90's because of changes in how ratings were give since it was release Disney edited the movie to get rid of the R rating.



BlkPaladin said:
The_Yoda said:

Look up the movie Something Wicked this Way Comes

 

Scared me when I was little ... a freaky Disney movie of which there are not many as far as I know.

I love bringing that movie up, it is the only R rated movie released by Disney, as in Disney itself and not one of its other holding it uses for "mature" content, at the time of this movie coming out would have been touchstone. Freaky movie about the Devil coming to town to steal souls in some very graphic scenes especially if you can find the uncut version. When the rating was bumped up to R by the rating commision in the 90's because of changes in how ratings were give since it was release Disney edited the movie to get rid of the R rating.

Didn't know there was an edited version, I saw it close to the time of release back in the 80's. Interesting, didn't know all that.  Thanks for the info.



BasilZero said:
Roketan said:

So you are comparing Red Dead Redeption 2 a higly anticipated game that will be one of the best selling games this gen with spin offs like Builders, WoFF and KH2.8?

okay...

Re-read my post

 

I am not talking about the quality of the games but the amount of support.

By that logic the PS4 has terrible third party support because it doesn't have Rise of the Tomb Raider.



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Doesn't mean much. Rockstar couldn't even be bothered to port GTA 5 onto the Wii U so unless the NX ends up performing well above everyone's expectations, we won't see them putting anything on Nintendo consoles.



I'm okay with no R* games on NX. The last one I enjoyed was San Andreas.



BasilZero said:
potato_hamster said:

By that logic the PS4 has terrible third party support because it doesn't have Rise of the Tomb Raider.

 

Actually no - using your tonb raider example it sums up my post. Just because ps4 didn't have the game before when it was teased as exclusive didn't mean it had lack of support  - the ps4 had numerous other titles whether they be multiplats, exclusive niche titles or indie titles - it is still support.

 

Also In case you didn't know rise of the tomb raider is coming to ps4

Of course I know that.

When people say "Nintendo hardware has no third party support", they're talking about those system selling games. They're talking about Call of Duty, Battlefield, Metal Gear Solid, GTA, Red Dead, Fallout, Assassin's Creed, Witcher, EA's sports games, etc. AAA Third Party games that make your console desirable, and having them at the same time as the Playstation and Xbox counterparts. Generally Nintendo systems don't have that.

But by your logic, Nintendo consoles already has great third party support, you know with titles like "Just Dance", "Rayman","Mass Effect 3" (late), "Assassin's Creed: Black Flag" (late),  and "Deux Ex: Human Revolution" (late). What more third party support could Nintendo need, right?

Red Dead Revolution 2 is the kind of game that Nintendo needs on their console in order to pique the interest of those deciding between a PS4 and an NX. IF all things are equal, more people will choose Nintendo to get those iconic Nintendo third party games. But without it, Nintendo's first parties have demonstrated that they can no longer sell consoles on their own. That's why it's a big deal if NX gets passed over. Now if Nintendo turns around and announced many of those franchises listed above as appearing on the NX, then of course Red Dead doesn't really matter. But if this is a sign that the NX is going to be getting similar third party support to the Wii U?

Battleship sunk.



BasilZero said:
potato_hamster said:

Of course I know that.

When people say "Nintendo hardware has no third party support", they're talking about those system selling games. They're talking about Call of Duty, Battlefield, Metal Gear Solid, GTA, Red Dead, Fallout, Assassin's Creed, Witcher, EA's sports games, etc. AAA Third Party games that make your console desirable, and having them at the same time as the Playstation and Xbox counterparts. Generally Nintendo systems don't have that.

But by your logic, Nintendo consoles already has great third party support, you know with titles like "Just Dance", "Rayman","Mass Effect 3" (late), "Assassin's Creed: Black Flag" (late),  and "Deux Ex: Human Revolution" (late). What more third party support could Nintendo need, right?

Red Dead Revolution 2 is the kind of game that Nintendo needs on their console in order to pique the interest of those deciding between a PS4 and an NX. IF all things are equal, more people will choose Nintendo to get those iconic Nintendo third party games. But without it, Nintendo's first parties have demonstrated that they can no longer sell consoles on their own. That's why it's a big deal if NX gets passed over. Now if Nintendo turns around and announced many of those franchises listed above as appearing on the NX, then of course Red Dead doesn't really matter. But if this is a sign that the NX is going to be getting similar third party support to the Wii U?

Battleship sunk.

 

May I have your time machine so I can see myself exactly how much third party support the system has cause it seems like you know the ins and outs of a system no one knows anything about.

 

N64 and gcn flopped in sales but the Wii excelled in sales yet no one saw that coming did they?

 

In other words you can't judge how a level of third party support is going to be because of one game. Again using your example - ps4 didn't have tomb raider on ps4 originally and didn't get dead rising/saints row or mass effect on PS3 early in last gen yet it had plenty of third party support from other sources. 

Also battleship sunk? What is this the 1990s?

Time machine? Did you not notice a lot of "ifs" in what I posted. It's almost as if it's speculation based on recurring trends, or an "educated guess" if you will. I simply pointed out that this is a sign of what kind of third party support we can likely expect with the NX: Next to nothing that's noteworty, which is about the same as the Wii and the Wii U.

But, funny you should mention the Wii. You're right, it sold like gangbusters! By your logic, third parties must have flocked to it. So let me ask you: How come sqaure enix never brought Final Fantasy back to the manufacturer where that series first started? Where is Fallout 3 or Oblivion for the Wii? DId I somehow forget seeing the Assassin's Creed series on that console? Definitely no metal gear solid, or Grand Theft Auto, or Red Dead Redemption? No? How about all of those "HD collections" that were popular on the PS3 and Xbox 360? None of those to speak of either really.

Maybe it's because most of the third party games that appeared on the Wii sold terribly. So if a Nintendo console sells well but third party games sell poorly, what logic are you using to think "if the NX sells well, it'll get third party support".

As for the 90's they were awesome. I remember them fondly - but like me, Battleship predates the 90's.



BasilZero said:
potato_hamster said:

When people say "Nintendo hardware has no third party support", they're talking about those system selling games. They're talking about Call of Duty, Battlefield, Metal Gear Solid, GTA, Red Dead, Fallout, Assassin's Creed, Witcher, EA's sports games, etc.

Red Dead Revolution 2 is the kind of game that Nintendo needs on their console in order to pique the interest of those deciding between a PS4 and an NX... Now if Nintendo turns around and announced many of those franchises listed above as appearing on the NX, then of course Red Dead doesn't really matter. 

May I have your time machine so I can see myself exactly how much third party support the system has cause it seems like you know the ins and outs of a system no one knows anything about.

In other words you can't judge how a level of third party support is going to be because of one game. 

Re-read what they wrote in bold.  They are explicitly saying if other 3rd party support comes, than Red Dead doesn't matter.
To expect a change in 'core gaming' on anything other than faith/hope, one would need evidence, and Red Dead isn't providing that.