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LivingMetal said:
Everyone is religious by nature. That would make your entire topic invalid.

I disagree, looking at my childhood. Why do you think that ? 



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LivingMetal said:
Everyone is religious by nature. That would make your entire topic invalid.

I've been an atheist since I was 10 years old, that makes your entire statement invalid.

OT: Most everyone seeks a group to belong to, and the group gathers around certain themes. That is not religion - rather, it is pure human desire for socializing. That is why you and I are here, among other useful factors that exist on this forum, such as making game releases easier to follow, for example.



Everything at this point does have a negative effect on children but it's the responsibility of parents to make sure their children aren't over-exposed to these things so the blame should be simple.... Tv, computers and video games is not a babysitter.



 

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I don't think religion or gaming are solely to blame for kids not being able to determine between fact and fiction. There are people who are uneducated and dumb from alltypes of backgrounds.

Secondly,even if you are into gaming or religion, your intellectual ability to separate fact from fiction may come from something else entirely.

When you watch people on Jersey Shore, Judge Judy, day time trash TV, reality TV, you soon discover that people with our without religion have issues separating fact from fiction.

If you think about it, everything surrounding the average kid teaches them about fiction:

1) trends in fashion
2) trends in music
3) trends in gang culture
4) trends in science
5) trends in politics
6) trends in film and TV
7) trends in technology

In a way, pretty much anything can be abused and put into this category it isn't exclusive to gaming and religion.



Xen said:
LivingMetal said:
Everyone is religious by nature. That would make your entire topic invalid.

I've been an atheist since I was 10 years old, that makes your entire statement invalid.

OT: Most everyone seeks a group to belong to, and the group gathers around certain themes. That is not religion - rather, it is pure human desire for socializing. That is why you and I are here, among other useful factors that exist on this forum, such as making game releases easier to follow, for example.

 

You proved the point of the poster you replied to. Your Religion is not to believe in any God or Deity in any form or fashion.

 

Next I'd like to talk about this comment from the first post, tho I would like to confirm that you feel or the artical feels that religion is fiction and what the world says in opposition is fact? Or is it the other way round?

 

This first one makes points about how children who are religious do not distinguish very well between fact and fiction as well as children who are not religious/secular.

 

This I totally disagree with. I think that people who have a belief system in place is more likely to give balanced facts and reasons than that of secular people.

For example: The biggest fiction in the world is of Santa Clause. I have told all three of my children that Santa is not real from a very young age. I also told them that some children are told he is real and visits all the good children in one night with a present. I also told them that they do not have the right to destroy someone elses belief in Santa. But I made clear to my 3 kids that while someone who visited his towns poor kids with presents when alive and was a nice man does not indeed do it every year for the last 2 centuries all over the world, the man is dead leave him so. This is Fact. My kids know far more FACT's that the FICTION the "real world" try's to spit out.



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Attiq said:
Xen said:

I've been an atheist since I was 10 years old, that makes your entire statement invalid.

OT: Most everyone seeks a group to belong to, and the group gathers around certain themes. That is not religion - rather, it is pure human desire for socializing. That is why you and I are here, among other useful factors that exist on this forum, such as making game releases easier to follow, for example.

 

You proved the point of the poster you replied to. Your Religion is not to believe in any God or Deity in any form or fashion.

Definitions as found by google:

Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Atheism:disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Where's the proof?



Xen said:
Attiq said:

 

You proved the point of the poster you replied to. Your Religion is not to believe in any God or Deity in any form or fashion.

Definitions as found by google:

Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Atheism:disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Where's the proof?

The proof is in your belief system or you could say your disbelief system. Whether or not you recognise it doesn't change the fact its your religion.



Attiq said:
Xen said:

Definitions as found by google:

Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Atheism:disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Where's the proof?

The proof is in your belief system or you could say your disbelief system. Whether or not you recognise it doesn't change the fact its your religion.

I bolded an important part.

What tenets of atheism qualify it as a religion, exactly? My disbelief system is just that, a system that avoids any worries about beliefs. There is no recursive logic here.



Xen said:
Attiq said:

The proof is in your belief system or you could say your disbelief system. Whether or not you recognise it doesn't change the fact its your religion.

I bolded an important part.

What tenets of atheism qualify it as a religion, exactly? My disbelief system is just that, a system that avoids any worries about beliefs. There is no recursive logic here.

I can reply all day round with this. No worries at all. But I will curtail it cause its silly to try to make someone think outside of the box they are in. Whether thats my box or yours you decide. =-)

 

You want to believe you have no belief system and that it's not your religion thats fine. I know better.



Attiq said:
Xen said:

I bolded an important part.

What tenets of atheism qualify it as a religion, exactly? My disbelief system is just that, a system that avoids any worries about beliefs. There is no recursive logic here.

I can reply all day round with this. No worries at all. But I will curtail it cause its silly to try to make someone think outside of the box they are in. Whether thats my box or yours you decide. =-)

 

You want to believe you have no belief system and that it's not your religion thats fine. I know better.

There are belief systems that exist without having a religious component, your failure to grasp that concept is on you, not anyone else here.