Vinther1991 said: PwerlvlAmy said: They simply cant afford to repeat Wii U's mistakes of releasing an under powered console that cant run third party games. It has to be PS4 level or bust imo If they want Japanese third party support it's by far better to make a handheld/hybrid. And for a handheld it's pretty much as powerful as it can be (if the rumours are true) without being too expensive, have low battery life or being unprofitable. What western third party games do they need? Stuff like Call of Duty and Fifa always sold like shit on Nintendo hardware.

People can deny it all they want but for Nintendo to continue in the console market, they need third party and yes even COD and Fifa,I'm not a fan of those franchises, but they still need those games.

 

Less games is not a positive 

 

As stated by me I feel best case scenario is they have the home console thats powerful as PS4 to be able to cater to what third parties want, then handheld to appease that side, like the video stated. Handheld hooks into the console and then is played on the TV and then take out the handheld from the console and take the game on the go,which will obviously be downscaled.

 

Strong console(ps4 level) + capable handheld + shared library = best case scenario imo

JRPGfan said: PwerlvlAmy said: Sounds like the two console rumor. Now its going to be interesting to see who powers the home comsole, AMD or Nvidia and how powerful it is. The power is gonna determine how far this console goes.  Best case scenario: as strong as PS4 Worst case: Weaker than XB1/PS4 Sounds like a table that overclocks (or just runs full speed) when its docked (and thus can draw power from a cord), and when you take it out of the dock, it downclocks to save power. It doesnt sound like 2 devices, it sounds like 1, that does 2 things. Each and every game nintendo makes will have 2 modes, portable mode & docked mode. Kinda like how PS4 games have a normal mode + PS4pro mode.

except for the fact that he specifically named two devices.

 

''Handheld hooks into the console''  

 

handheld + console = 2

PwerlvlAmy said: JRPGfan said: Sounds like a table that overclocks (or just runs full speed) when its docked (and thus can draw power from a cord), and when you take it out of the dock, it downclocks to save power. It doesnt sound like 2 devices, it sounds like 1, that does 2 things. Each and every game nintendo makes will have 2 modes, portable mode & docked mode. Kinda like how PS4 games have a normal mode + PS4pro mode. except for the fact that he specifically named two devices. ''Handheld hooks into the console''   handheld + console = 2

Which sounds alot like a tablet + docking station to me.

PwerlvlAmy said: Darwinianevolution said: I don't really agree with that. Aside from the fact almost every gen has been won by a console that's not the strongest  (PS1, PS2, Wii, GB, DS, 3DS), it's the content the key factor here. That and advertisement, Nintendo needs to explain as nice and simple this concept as they possibly can. They simply cant afford to repeat Wii U's mistakes of releasing an under powered console that cant run third party games. It has to be PS4 level or bust imo

Big western publishers are going to consider Nintendo as a last option anyway, better catter the japanese devs to get their big IPs. Capcom, Square Enix, Sega... the have wester-focused IPs that would work well on the NX.

JRPGfan said: PwerlvlAmy said: except for the fact that he specifically named two devices. ''Handheld hooks into the console''   handheld + console = 2 Which sounds alot like a tablet + docking station to me.

again except for the fact he said ''console'' and not ''docking'' or ''dock''. He specifically said console

as of right now it sounds like two devices just based off the info he gave from an Ubi dev. hopefully we'll know 100% for sure soon

More or less what I've been thinking; they're going to release a couple of SKU's, each purchasable and usable seperately but connectable and 'supplemental' in some way. Anyway I won't take this video as gospel because it's guesswork as good as mine.

Darwinianevolution said: PwerlvlAmy said: They simply cant afford to repeat Wii U's mistakes of releasing an under powered console that cant run third party games. It has to be PS4 level or bust imo Big western publishers are going to consider Nintendo as a last option anyway, better catter the japanese devs to get their big IPs. Capcom, Square Enix, Sega... the have wester-focused IPs that would work well on the NX.

SEGA only release Sonic

I cant see Capcom going to bat for Nintendo with lower spec'd hardware

Maybe NX can run lower Square-Enix games like World of FF but stuff lik FF7R and FFXV is out of the question with a weaker system

PwerlvlAmy said: Darwinianevolution said: Big western publishers are going to consider Nintendo as a last option anyway, better catter the japanese devs to get their big IPs. Capcom, Square Enix, Sega... the have wester-focused IPs that would work well on the NX. SEGA only release Sonic I cant see Capcom going to bat for Nintendo with lower spec'd hardware Maybe NX can run lower Square-Enix games like World of FF but stuff lik FF7R and FFXV is out of the question with a weaker system

Sega has Platinum Games. Capcom has enough interest in Nintendo for them to invest, their Monster Hunter audience is still on the 3DS, and that's thei biggest cash cow at the moment. And FFXV is oing to release on PC, right? So why not use the lowest specs in the worst case scenario?

"The concept is great, because he said you could play say.... assasins creed, once you have your handheld plugged into your console, and then you can then detache the thing and take it with you, and play assasins creed the mobile game out of your pocket, and then when you get back home, you can and plug it back in, and now it it attachs back in (to the normal assassin creed)."

He never says you can play on your console "without" the handheld part.
This makes me think, what hes calling the "home console" part is just a docking station for the handheld.
All the hardware is inside the handheld.

Also what he calls the normal version & mobile game version, are the same game.
He makes it sound like you pick off where you left off, reguardless of which version your playing.

That sounds like the PS4 version & PS4pro version of games.
Its the same game, the differnce is the resolutions & effects ect.

He just discribes how the NX works.
Its a tablet, that sits in a docking station.
When your at home on your TV it plays the game at a high resolution.
When you leave home with your tablet, it plays the game at a lower resolution (conserve power).

This sounds like the hybrid theory to me.
Not 2 devices.

Ah boogie, you gotta love him. As it has been said, by rumors standards, nothing really new. Again, that's by rumor standards. I still stand by the idea that although there might be a smidgen of truth, we ultimately don't know anything about NX and its intentions.