Im not sure if Splatoon 2 will release next year, im thinking a remaster is very likely though. We are overdue for a new Animal Crossing (last one released in 2012/2013) so i think they will release that first.

Cause Nintendo said it's March.

I hope you're correct, but Nintendo did say at one time that The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild was going to be released in 2015.

Delay of games is totaly normal (espacily Zelda games), delaying launch of console is very rare.

But you and I know that is not why it was a failure.

It failed to sell well because it launched too late in the gen, and was barely on pair with the past gen consoles from competition.

Then the competition launched newer consoles that made the Wii U look very old.

Ontop of that its way to expensive even now, for what it is, compaired to the competition, because of the gamepad controller, and hardware component choices.

It lacks 3rd party which is a big deal to many gamers.

and reguardless of what Nintendo is saying, you need to time to market products, if you want to see effects from marketing.

5months is cutting it short, in many peoples opinion, so if NX fails, next console nintendo will say "we didnt market NX early enough".

We re down to 5months now btw.

Oct,Nov,Dec,Jan,Feb  and then it launches early March.

I hope Nintendo reveals it soon.

Doing it in nov or dec, they risk it getting drowned out by noise the others make. They need the time too, and Im tired of waiting on info on the NX.

Single biggest reason why Wii U failed was marketing (in marketing I include terrible and naming and of course terrible and misunderstood marketing), and that is very connected with fact they revile Wii U too early. Followd buy high price in combination with very weak launch and 1st year lineup, constant software droughts and not appealing gamepad. Those are main reasons why Wii U failed, but I agree that timing was one of factor because lotsa people decided to wait one year to see PS4/XB1 console, buy time PS4/XB1 arrivd Wii U was already dead and 3rd party already abandoned platform.

Fact that basicly marketing was Wii Us single biggest problem, with NX they changing strategie with revel and marketing, today in tech industry 3-4 months of very good and strong marketing is much better than having 6-12 or even months of usual marketing, XB1 was revealed 6 months before launch while PS4 Pro only 2 months before launch, Nintendo can (and most likly will) revel NX in October and launch it in March and do it all right.

I dont believe this to be true. Your wrong about why Wii U failed.

Marketing was a problem, but it was NOT the biggest one. (what comes first, chicken or egg? marketing wise)

Also Early marketing is NOT the same as Bad marketing.  (early marketing =/= bad marketing , so your entire arguement falls apart)

It cant be said the reason the Wii U had bad marketing was because it was early revealed.

You do understand the the differnce between a "new console + new concept" vs "updated console" ?

So you cant compaire the time needed to effectively market the PS4pro to the NX needed time.

You do realise that huge number of people in Wii Us 1st year thought that Wii U is some kind addon for Wii, you realise that even stores were confused so they were selling Wii U games for Wii or they were replacing promotions for Wii and Wii U, you do realise that even today some people dont know that Wii U even exist but they are very aware of Wii (I resseling Wii U games and I still need to explain people that this are games for newer Nintendo console for which they didnt heard not old one).

Like I wrote, in marketing I include terrible reavile, naming and of course terrible and misunderstood marketing, of Course that marketing is esily single biggest one, you can't sell product if consumers are not aware of product at all or if they are misunderstood about product (thinking that is Wii addon).

They had bad reavile, bad launch marketing, bad 1st year marketing, buy time realise they doing something bad and release good Wii U video (end of 2013.), it was alredy too late, Wii U was already dead.

No, I saying they that they revile Wii U year and half before launch and they still had terrible and misunderstood marketing. 

Second biggest reason why Wii U failed is very weak launch titles and high price compared to PS3/Xbox360.

Of Course, even for new platform or concept today you dont need more than 5-6 monts of marketing. Before console were revile 1.5-2 years before launch, we saw PS4 revealed 9 months before launch, XB1 6 months before launch and PS4 Pro 2 monts before launch, why do you think is that, because today you dont really need any more so much time and having around 4-6 months of good marketing and maintain hype is better than 6-12 months of marketing.

Miyamotoo yes marketing was bad, but there are plenty of people that do know what the Wii U is, and dont want it either.

Its bigger than just a marketing problem.
Its the hardware itself, and the games for it, just arnt enough to draw people into buying it.

That is a bigger problem than their marketing.
There are too many people that simply dont want a Wii U.

Even if it had the worlds best marketing, it would still have failed.

Of Course that they are people know for Wii U and they just dont want to buy it, most of fans and gamers know about it, but you can bet huge number of casuals didnt know about it or they misunderstood it, and huge number of Wii owners were those same casuals.

I didn't said that marketing is only problem or that Wii U would be success with just a great marketing, its combination of bad decisions and problems, but single biggest one is marketing. Revile and marketing is were all starts, if revile and marketing were good more people would be aware of Wii U and on train for Wii U, that means better sales, better sales maybe means 3rd party wouldn't be abandoning Wii U so soon, and Nintendo maybe wouldnt abonding Wii U so soon...

I wrote that IMO second biggest problem was weak launch 1st year lineup and software drought followed by high price of Wii U. If Wii U had good marketing, Mario Maker and Splatoon for instance for launch and 1st year without software drofth, and affordable price, Wii U would sell much better than actually did, and definitely wouldn't become worst selling Nintendo console.

Agree that even with just a good marketing Wii U would failed, but definitely would sell noticeable better, maybe even would hit GC numbers, but still would failed, like I wrote reavile and marketing is where all starts mess that and you will have very big problems reterning espacily if you have other bit problmes folowing like Wii U did.

Wii U really was bloody mess, there is reason why is worst selling Nintendo console.