Im please and im a regular ps4 owner lol FFXV was running questionable on the vanilla ps4 so im really happy there is another console that can run it better.  

I just hope that the version on the normal ps4 looks good (not just decent, with actually good image quality) and runs at a stable framerate. If it doesn't, then I won't be getting this game until I get the pro, which won't happen anytime soon :/

Well crap, now I might need a PS4Pro. I also wonder if Bloodborne and other games with framerate hiccups andong load times will see improvements to those two areas. Even if they don't get the big graphical updates, smoother performance would be pretty sweet.

A lot of the mainline titles have made their way to PC. I wouldn't say it's never coming to PC, it's just a matter of time. IF you don't want to wait, go for the Pro version or regular PS4, if you have the patience, wait for the PC version (seriously not ever putting it on PC would be a dick move at this point with their general mission towards releasing the majority of FF towards PC).

I couldn't disagree more with that ps3/ps4 comparison. The correct comparison would be a PC playing in ultra settings and a PC playing in medium/high settings. Why should the world of console gaming be the only one that should not keep up with the technology advancements?

I honestly don't understand it. If you're happy with your current console, why should it matter at what settings I'm playing my game? Does it take anything away from your experience? I could understand some anger if there would be 2 different games, or locked functionality between 2 games, or even exclusive games. But none of those things is happening, so what's with all the sourness?

No generation before the ps3/xb360 (that I can remember) went for 6+ years. That was an abnormality and honestly speaking, it went for way way too long. I had to force myself to turn on my old gen consoles because of how outdated they looked, and sometimes I would skip games entirely if they weren't on PC in the last few years.

So... yeah... don't upgrade if you're happy with the console, enjoy the games. And once the new gen starts just enjoy the massive performance leap you're going to get.

I don't really buy it.
Until i see someone who has played the final release all the way through on the normal ps4, and then try this and say "oh its a whole new world" then i won't believe the 1080p pro version will be that different.
If they are strictly talking 4k HDR then i guess i understand.

Just to clear it up your Cod PS3 vs COD PS4 is nowhere near the same. Those are pretty much two different games. One is only multiplayer and is way different than 720p to 1080p. So that is a pretty bad example. They have completely differnet features in the actual games. The PS4 vs PS4Pro is different because it will only be a difference of one looking and running a little better than the other.

The PC comparison is actually pretty much what this will be. Heck it is almost like last gen where some MP games ran and looked slightly better on 360 than PS3. And it never stopped anyone from buying a PS3 and being happy with it.

Also the friend bragging about their pro things seems silly to me. I mean I have a 2012 Altima by friend just bought a 2016 Chevy Camero. And he brags about it and I see how good it looks but I don't feel "forced" to upgrade. I have a 60inch LG HDTV and my other friend just got a 75 inch Samsung 4kUHDTV and brags about it and I saw how good it looks and I do not feel forced to upgrade. So that argument just seems odd to me. Of course it may be an issue to others who feel they have to have the best(even though they technically don't because there will always be someone who has better) but for most everyday folks I do not think it will be an issue at all. To the hardcore forum dwellers like some of us...maybe.

I plan on getting a Pro around the time the Scorpio releases because it will be a lot cheaper by then and I might have a 4k TV by then...maybe anyway lol.

This is true and good points! Time will tell though how this plays out!

GTA 5 is actually also a terrible example, when the game was released on PS4 and PC, it had a 1st person mode that was not available on the previous generation consoles at all. So that would be something that is not happening between the OG and the Pro.

The fact of the matter is, there are reasons why both MS and Sony are bringing mid gen upgrades. There was a significant reduction in the size of the GPUs, from 28 to 14nm, which means it makes it more expensive to offer the old hardware than upgrade and get a better hardware inside.

That is a win for consumers. If we want, we can get a better version of the games we already were going to get. It makes sense for Sony as well in this case, sincethey can reduce the costs of the machine while offering a good upgrade to the users.

The argument of "but my friend will brag he has x better than me" is childish, nonsense and as TheBlackNaruto pointed out, could literally be applied to any other product in the world.

After your reply I understand you do in fact game on PC, so you're trying to play devil's advocate on behalf of someone who might feel slighted with all this. I don't think that's necessary at all, there's plenty of people online who will voice their complains if they indeed feel bad about anything. Having people make up reasons why X or Y upgrade is bad just muddies the water. Nothing is gained from it.

Finally to your point of people may be hesitant to buy the PS5 when it comes out, I would point out the time that passed between the Xbox and the 360. Microsoft's most popular console came 3 years after their previous console was released (2002 to 2005). If anything it proves that gamers want the shiny new experiences and we will support them once they show us the goods.

Im not buying a pro, since they decided to bottleneck online components to 30FPS and it seems to high of a price for an upgrade, great price for new buyers.. sure but as an excisting user I will have to wait on the reviews and see how the performance is on the regular console, if its a stable 30FPS I will buy it, if its like the demo or any of the gameplay I've seen playing on the show floors so far on regular PS4's this game is death to me untill it arrives on PC.