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Goatseye said:

4K Ultra HD televisions are expected to double sales to 15 million units in the U.S. in 2016 and the next-generation TVs are now being adopted at a faster rate than predecessor high-definition TVs. Sales of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players are also selling at a fast rate, according to Gary Shapiro, CEO of the Consumer Technology Association, the big tech lobbying group.

At a press event in San Francisco, Shapiro said that 62 percent of consumers plan to buy a consumer electronics viewing device in the next 12 months. 33 percent plan to buy a smartphone, and 29 percent plan to buy a TV.

“Consumers are showing a strong preference for 4K,” which has four times as many on-screen pixels as HDTVs, Shapiro said. “It’s faster and more robust than HDTV.”

By 2017, 4K UHD TV sales will hit 20 million a year in the U.S. That number will grow to 23 million in 2018, and 26 million by 2019, Shapiro said. The 2016 growth rate is 105 percent above the units sold for 2015.

More than 700,000 4K Blu-ray players have been sold so far in 2016, Shapiro said. Blu-ray is now 10 years old as a technology, launched in support of HDTV content. Now all of the major studios are releasing content on the 4K UHD format. Netflix is also streaming movies in 4K formats online. More than 500,000 4K Blu-ray discs have been sold so far, according to the Digital Entertainment Group.

It will be a $1 billion business by 2019 in the U.S. alone, the DEG’s president, Amy Jo Smith said.

Shapiro said that four of 10 TVs that ship this year will be 4K UltraHD, so sales of HDTVs remain strong as well. Almost every TV set over 50 inches diagonal is a 4K set, Shaprio said.

 

 

Meanwhile, prices are dropping. The average 4K TV price in 2015 was $1,048, and that is dropping to $861 in 2016. Shapiro said that the new ATSC 3.0 television standard is being finalized for 4K transmission over Internet Protocol and on mobile devices, and he expects to see TVs that use the standard at the Consumer Electronics Show in early 2017.

The Consumer Technology Association, which puts on CES every year, expects to have about 3,800 exhibitors at CES 2017, which takes place from January 5 to January 8 in Las Vegas. About 165,000 attendees are expected from 150 countries. About 6,500 media are expected.

4K UHD TVs are growing sales at 105 percent in 2016 compared to 2015.

Are gamers the main catalyst of 4KTV sales growth? 
Will Scorpio be like a norm device rather than a niche device for enthusiasts by the end of 2017?

Price of an HDTV in the early 2000's vs. UHDTV's now. There are already low budget 4K tv's at a price range cheap HD`s had in 2009/2010.

I still had my actually pretty good 32" widescreen CRT back then.



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Teeqoz said:
"More than 500 000 4K blu-ray discs have been sold so far"



.....That's it?

They only released earlier this year and are expensive as fuck. 
In Australia looking at the preorder of Suicide Squad its $44.98 for the 4K Bluray, $29.98 for the Bluray and $24.98 for the DVD.
Considering where physical media is at right now compared to digital and how expensive 4K Blurays can be right now its a tough sell.
Like most new technoloigies it relies on a niche audience to support it in its early days. Whether or not it can find mainstream appeal in the future however is yet to be seen now that streaming content has become viable and popular.



Goatseye said:

4K TV price in 2015 was $1,048, and that is dropping to $861 in 2016

Ha ha ha ha



Isn't that limited to the US and other few countries that can actually stream 4k ?
Most of the western Europe internet connection can't handle it and UHD bluray certainly isn't trending right now.



LivingMetal said:
A couple of main driving factors of selling 4K tvs is that tv manufacturer are making them out of competition, and that's pretty much all you can find on the market these day at a decent size.

My thoughts exactly.



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KBG29 said:
celador said:
Surprised really, the difference is great but not as dramatic as the jump from standard to HD.

Probably get one for next gen, should be some attractive prices around by 2019/2020

Actually, if you go look at 4K HDR vs 4K vs  1080p, I think you would be surprised. If you look at the Z9D next to even the X940D which are both 4K HDR TV's the difference is unbelievable. 4K and high quality HDR is a much bigger jump than 480 4:3 to 1080 16:9. 1080 to 2160 is nothing special though without HDR. 

pray4mojo said:
What I don't understand is the marketing. Back when high definition was coming out, it was marketed as HD. Then when those 720P and 1080i tvs were in homes, they decided to lie to people by telling them they didn't have "full" hd, which was 1080P. After everyone went out and got themselves "full" hdtvs, then they decided to sell 2160P sets as "ultra"... even though they already told them 1080P was "full".

Here is the definition of full.

1.
containing or holding as much or as many as possible; having no empty space.

2.
not lacking or omitting anything; complete.

If full means holding as much as possible, then 1080P is the highest resolution mankind will ever produce and therefore, 2160P is pointless.

This is why Sony decided to drop out of the group and call market their TV's as 4K, and now 4K HDR. The whole HD, Full HD, Ultra HD naming is rediculous. 4K, 6K, 8K, ect. is the way it should be.

foodfather said:
A meaningless stat since 4k tvs are cheap, same price roughly as regular hd yet 4k content is no way near being adopted as high as blurays.

There where actually really cheap 1080p TV's back in the mid 2000's, they where just the highly superior rear projection TV's that died out to the crappy LCDs we have today. People where confused by the 3000 to 4500 hour bulb life and thought their TV was broke after 3 - 5 years, when in reality all they had to do was call up their manufacturer and get the 1st free replacement bulb which was standard on almost all of these TV's from respectable brands. 

It is tragic that we only have LCD/LED/OLED with crappy 20ms+ response times, and lower image quality, when we could have much higher image qulaity and as low as 4ms response times if we still had SXRD. A great example of consumers failing, and dragging down tech.

At the Bolded I always laughed that HD was just for High Definition, I mean it is completely subjective, High compared to ? We always have to remember that the Megadrive was the first HD console... HD compared to the NES of course but it still used the term High Def, need to put an actual number on things to show the increase.

Oddly doesn't have a HDMI tho!



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4K is still a few years off from being mainstream in terms of content, TV's they've been around a little while now and are starting to drop in price but content is still a massive issue. 4K tv's will become the defecto standard, but the content won't.

A good example is Sky TV, they are still selling Sky SD and you have to pay an extra £10 a month if you want HD... its stupid that HD still isn't even the default standard. SD should be dead by now but its not... just look at DVD's still selling and amazon/apple selling SD versions of movies.



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Teeqoz said:
"More than 500 000 4K blu-ray discs have been sold so far"

.....That's it?

Most of those probably arnt recorded in full 4k either.



JRPGfan said:
Teeqoz said:
"More than 500 000 4K blu-ray discs have been sold so far"

.....That's it?

Most of those probably arnt recorded in full 4k either.

That's sad. It explains the lack of a 4K player in the ps4 pro.  Everybody was wondering why it would not be included and this article inadvertently explains it. 700,000 players sold to 500,000 disc.  I'd sell individual players also.  I can see it now: Consumer "I'd like to buy a 4K movie player please", Salesman "Would you like a 4K movie with that sir?", Consumer "Nope, just the player".



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pray4mojo said:
What I don't understand is the marketing. Back when high definition was coming out, it was marketed as HD. Then when those 720P and 1080i tvs were in homes, they decided to lie to people by telling them they didn't have "full" hd, which was 1080P. After everyone went out and got themselves "full" hdtvs, then they decided to sell 2160P sets as "ultra"... even though they already told them 1080P was "full".

Here is the definition of full.

1.
containing or holding as much or as many as possible; having no empty space.

2.
not lacking or omitting anything; complete.

If full means holding as much as possible, then 1080P is the highest resolution mankind will ever produce and therefore, 2160P is pointless.

They're just marketing terms dude. All forms of technology use them under their own definition and not the literal definition. Saying Full HD is just to make it seem enticing. There's no such thing as a 'full' HD because screen size and distance always play a factor in resolution.

It's like Apples 'retina' display. 


Standard Def, 300k Pixels or 576k in Europe
720p Around 900k Pixels
Full HD just means 1080p. Around 2 million Pixels
Ultra HD 8 million Pixels




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