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COKTOE said:
zippy said:
They screwed the Wii market with mediocre games then? Thank goodness they supported high quality projects on the PS3 and 360 like Aliens Colonial marines

Sega was screwed by the vagabond Randy Pitchford and his team of flim-flam artists on that game. That's quite the viewpoint though. Doesn't seem like cherry picking at all.

They made good and bad games for all three last gen consoles.



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A lot of companies jumped on the cheap cash-in bandwagon. It's how the gaming markets on iOS and Android operate. Most third-party Wii titles were shovelware. There were a few diamonds in the rough, but they were generally the exception and not the rule.

Sega has made a lot of crap over the past few years, most of it Sonic. I think Secret Rings was actually better-reviewed than the 360/PS3 game that came out at the same time. They also tried to take a ride on the licensing merry-go-round and they put out a lot of crap licenses, though Gearbox did them kind of dirty with Aliens. But you could chalk that up to Sega not exercising proper oversight.

Sega's also made or overseen a lot of really good games on the 7th gen consoles. I enjoyed every one of Platinum Games' Sega-published offerings, including Madworld on Wii and Infinite Space on DS, and indeed they were some of my favorite games of the generation. Valkyria Chronicles was my favorite game of the entire 7th gen, VCII was probably my favorite PSP game. The only game which came close to it was Ni no Kuni. I've also enjoyed Yakuza and am happy that Sega is continuing to release the series over here despite very niche-y sales. Honestly, I've enjoyed some of their offerings as a third party more than I did their offerings on their own consoles. It's too bad they haven't done better as a third party, and it's kind of too bad they had to let 2K Games go.

They have talented designers and some screwy managers. Doesn't help that the Sammy half of the company was more interested in using Sega characters in pachislot games than in video games, and Sega's customer surveys still kind of try to steer you towards their mobile offerings.



KLXVER said:
COKTOE said:

Sega was screwed by the vagabond Randy Pitchford and his team of flim-flam artists on that game. That's quite the viewpoint though. Doesn't seem like cherry picking at all.

They made good and bad games for all three last gen consoles.

.....indeed. However, Sega was WELL better (thanks Ali G) on the PS3/XB360 than on the Wii. Both. Either/or. Especially the PS3. This includes all deved/published games. It's not even close. The dude was looking through a pinhole. My comment was apt.



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COKTOE said:
KLXVER said:

They made good and bad games for all three last gen consoles.

.....indeed. However, Sega was WELL better (thanks Ali G) on the PS3/XB360 than on the Wii. Both. Either/or. Especially the PS3. This includes all deved/published games. It's not even close. The dude was looking through a pinhole. My comment was apt.

Probably, but they released several bad games on the PS3 and 360 as well. Of all the companies that released many games on the Wii, Sega just dont come to mind when I think of companies that were lazy and released much shovelware.



KLXVER said:
COKTOE said:

.....indeed. However, Sega was WELL better (thanks Ali G) on the PS3/XB360 than on the Wii. Both. Either/or. Especially the PS3. This includes all deved/published games. It's not even close. The dude was looking through a pinhole. My comment was apt.

Probably, but they released several bad games on the PS3 and 360 as well. Of all the companies that released many games on the Wii, Sega just dont come to mind when I think of companies that were lazy and released much shovelware.

Yes. They did have some good Wii games, no doubt.



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I cannot believe the OP got away with misrepresenting information and everybody follows. This is a general question about SEGA's quality drop as whole last gen. This isnt asbout Wii. Wii is used as example where SEGA tried to make alot of money on trash, but hes not blaming that market for overall quality drop. He's talking about SEGA's general misuse of Marvel license, Terrible Sonic games, terrible 3rd party games ext due to consumer boom for consoles last gen. SEGA sucked everywhere last gen minus Japan.

Thread title is not entirely accurate



KLXVER said:
maxleresistant said:

excuses, excuses, excuses.

 

Well what companies do you support then since you dont play games from anyone who makes a bad game.

I never said that people shouldn't buy any Nintendo games because they released bad ones...

I said that we shouldn't make any excuses for Nintendo or anybody else when they release a bad game.

I talked about Nintendo because Sega was talking specifically about the Wii.

I'm not ok with Sony releasing Knack or The Order, or Microsoft releasing Ryse.

 



COKTOE said:
zippy said:
They screwed the Wii market with mediocre games then? Thank goodness they supported high quality projects on the PS3 and 360 like Aliens Colonial marines

Sega was screwed by the vagabond Randy Pitchford and his team of flim-flam artists on that game. That's quite the viewpoint though. Doesn't seem like cherry picking at all.

 

That was my point, not all Sega games released on Wii were bad, same with PS360. Yet the internet will generalize Wii with having shitty Sega games.

VGPolyglot said:
AZWification said:

The fact that Secret Rings sold 2 million is mind-boggling to me, that game is absolute shit.

I bought it. Mario and Sonic at the Olympics too.

Eh, the first Olympics games was kinda fun but Secret Rings was a definitely a different story.



                
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Threat title and article content don't match. The example that they gave was Wii, but they obviously put out quite a bit of crap on PS360 as well. OP maybe should have used the article title, or maybe Sonic 06, Iron Man, Captain America, Aliens: Colonial Marines were all actually underated gems on the PS360.