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barneystinson69 on 13 September 2016
Azuren said:
barneystinson69 said:

It'll be no more than $399. I'll keep to that till the price is released.

I can honestly see them charging upwards of $600 to make the "it's a premium console" argument. 

Do you also expect 10tflops and 4k 60FPS gaming? Because for $600, oh yes that is possible.



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tokilamockingbrd on 13 September 2016
barneystinson69 said:
tokilamockingbrd said:
the highlights the main difference between PS Pro and Scorpio. Scorpio is being branded as a premium machine, the pro is just being marketed as better. The only 100 dollar difference in price point attest to this. I highly doubt scorpio will just be 100 dollars more than the cheapest option to get an xb1.

Scorpio is competing more against Steam machines than PS Pro.

The steam machines that utterly failed? A "premium" device can mean anything. And what makes you think the XB1 will be $300 next year? Probably 199-249$. People are way overestimating the price of the Scorpio, when in the truth the difference is by about 2 tflops. 1 year is a lot of time, and you can bet your ass that technology is going to get cheaper. The rate of technological advancement doubles every two years, and the pace at which things are getting more powerful is astounding (Moore's law). If the Scorpio is $500, it'll probably have 8-10tflops of power vs 6.

the actually price makes less difference than it price in comparison to the low end models. Lets say its 200 dollars more, to you and me as enthusiast it is worth it. But to a mainstream consumer they will ask so what do I get for 200 more? Better graphics? But it plays the same games right? Most people upgrade when they can no longer play the games they want. Core gamers upgrade when they feel like the are missing out on the best performance in their games.



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barneystinson69 on 13 September 2016
tokilamockingbrd said:
barneystinson69 said:

The steam machines that utterly failed? A "premium" device can mean anything. And what makes you think the XB1 will be $300 next year? Probably 199-249$. People are way overestimating the price of the Scorpio, when in the truth the difference is by about 2 tflops. 1 year is a lot of time, and you can bet your ass that technology is going to get cheaper. The rate of technological advancement doubles every two years, and the pace at which things are getting more powerful is astounding (Moore's law). If the Scorpio is $500, it'll probably have 8-10tflops of power vs 6.

the actually price makes less difference than it price in comparison to the low end models. Lets say its 200 dollars more, to you and me as enthusiast it is worth it. But to a mainstream consumer they will ask so what do I get for 200 more? Better graphics? But it plays the same games right? Most people upgrade when they can no longer play the games they want. Core gamers upgrade when they feel like the are missing out on the best performance in their games.

The point I am trying to prove is why do you think it'll be competing against steam machines, and not the PS Pro? Microsoft has stated that they're aiming for 6Tflops, and UNLESS those specs change, the price will be no more than $399.



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Mr Puggsly on 13 September 2016

Next year I predict $249 for X1 S and $399 for Scorpio.

Certainly MS knows price is important and may be willing to take a hit.



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Swordmasterman on 13 September 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Azuren said:

I can honestly see them charging upwards of $600 to make the "it's a premium console" argument. 

Do you also expect 10tflops and 4k 60FPS gaming? Because for $600, oh yes that is possible.

Did you know that Microsoft launched the Xbox One for 500US$ because of the Kinect ? and despite the Teraflop difference there will be, i believe, another CPU and a 4K Blu-ray player. Because they said "Xbox One S is the only console with 4K Blu-ray player that you can get this holiday" They will probably put that on Scorpio. Power  and price don't have nothing to do with each other. Of course that they can release a very powerful console for a cheap price, but a less powerful  console can also cost  more.



barneystinson69 on 13 September 2016
Swordmasterman said:
barneystinson69 said:

Do you also expect 10tflops and 4k 60FPS gaming? Because for $600, oh yes that is possible.

Did you know that Microsoft launched the Xbox One for 500US$ because of the Kinect ? and despite the Teraflop difference there will be, i believe, another CPU and a 4K Blu-ray player. Because they said "Xbox One S is the only console with 4K Blu-ray player that you can get this holiday" They will probably put that on Scorpio. Power  and price don't have nothing to do with each other. Of course that they can release a very powerful console for a cheap price, but a less powerful  console can also cost  more.

And utterly fail as they fall behind? The XB1S is $299 (will probably be 50-100$ less by next year), and does 4k blu-ray. So that argument doesn't work.



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Azuren on 13 September 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Azuren said:

I can honestly see them charging upwards of $600 to make the "it's a premium console" argument. 

Do you also expect 10tflops and 4k 60FPS gaming? Because for $600, oh yes that is possible.

No, I just expect a bunch of extra stuff, like full hardware BC with OGXB and 360, and multiple HDMI in for further entertainment system control.



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Drakrami on 13 September 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Drakrami said:

6 teraflops for $399. Stop living in lala land. 

One year from now? So 4 Tflops for $399 for no problem, but yet this will be $600? Lol

So you think 2 years from now 8 Tflops for $399? 5 years from now 14 Tflops? You are impressive. 

 

Not to mention 6Tflops is equalivent to gaming pcs. How much do gaming pcs cost? 1500USD+. So you dream that Microsoft is going to package you a console equalivant to a gaming pc at $399. rofl. 



barneystinson69 on 13 September 2016
Drakrami said:
barneystinson69 said:

One year from now? So 4 Tflops for $399 for no problem, but yet this will be $600? Lol

So you think 2 years from now 8 Tflops for $399? 5 years from now 14 Tflops? You are impressive. 

 

Not to mention 6Tflops is equalivent to gaming pcs. How much do gaming pcs cost? 1500USD+. So you dream that Microsoft is going to package you a console equalivant to a gaming pc at $399. rofl. 

3 years ago $399= 1.8Tflops. And for $1500, 6Tflops is the biggest rip-off. Even pre-made PCs are far more powerful for $1500. But ok...



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