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So...

Xbox Scorpio 164 33.68%
 
PS4 Pro 213 43.74%
 
None. I'm cool with my console. 72 14.78%
 
See results 38 7.80%
 
Total:487

Unless you have a 4k TV, it's pointless. These consoles are nothing but upgraded versions of what we all already have and unless my console breaks, I'm not buying a new one and even then it'll be the slim versions. Any game developed for PS4Pro and Scorpio will work on PS4 and Xbone so, why bother buying one?



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foodfather said:

Neither interest me because I don't plan on adopting 4k any time soon.
In 2017. if multiplats continue to be superior on the PS4, I will pick up a vanilla PS4. If the scorpio turns out to be good and improve graphics across the board (regardless of 4K) then I will pick up one when the price is right.

The Scorpio is a complete misfire too. Yes, the specs seem good, but do the mass consumers really want a 4K disc drive and if the cost is more than $500, its going to be a complete flop. 

You seem under the impression that the only benefit of PS4 NEO/Pro is 4k resolution, which won't matter if you don't have 4K TV.
Far from it.  
Reports are clear that devs are giving their NEO/Pro version options where you can select 4k output, OR max FPS/FX in 1080p.
(which may be higher than PS4og is able to accomplish if it was upscaling from 900p, plus benefits of FPS and higher FX levels).
Even if a given game doesn't allow those options, downscaling from higher res ~4k to 1080p output still results in better image quality.
Perhaps an upgrade isn't urgent if you already own a PS4, but if a new Playstation purchase, you should consider a NEO/Pro IMHO.

4K/UHD Blu Ray drives themselves are not especially more expensive, the standalone UHD players are because the need more processing power,
but any of the consoles already has that covered (as well as HDR color), so the difference in cost isn't enough to affect consumer purchase price.  
As to how Scorpio is priced, and how that affects sales, I guess we'll see... 



mutantsushi said:

Reports are clear that devs are giving their NEO/Pro version options where you can select 4k output, OR max FPS/FX in 1080p.
(which may be higher than PS4og is able to accomplish if it was upscaling from 900p, plus benefits of FPS and higher FX levels).
Even if a given game doesn't allow those options, downscaling from higher res ~4k to 1080p output still results in better image quality.
Perhaps an upgrade isn't urgent if you already own a PS4, but if a new Playstation purchase, you should consider a NEO/Pro IMHO.

I generally didn't consider the idea of more stable processing and therefore games which are meant to be 60fps by struggle on current consoles (probably due to bad optinisation) may perform better on the new ones, even if not in 4K. A good point.

For new purchases, it is a given that the new consoles would be considered but with the slims out at the sale time at £100 less, that might be more appealing.



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vivster said:

This is all common sense yet people still pretend that X1 is in some kind of equal race with PS4.

Why would they not be equal race? 

Because MS cannot suddenly pull 20 must have exclusives out of their hat to make people actually consider an Xbox over a PS4 that most of their friends have. X1 has shown over 3 years that it does not have enough to offer for people to consider buying it over a PS4. To suddenly reverse that situation it would have to produce value out of nothing that not only rivals PS4 value but doubles it. That's not what I call equal.

We will see how much behind X1 really is this Holiday with major releases on Sony side.



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My opinion is that we don't know enough about Scorpio but PS4Pro is obviously going take a huge commercial lead.

Counter to some of your points though:

" I still don't see people waiting over an year"... Forget about waiting for Scorpio, so many people will wait a year before getting PS4 Pro. Thats just how it works, only a minority of people rush out to buy something in its initial few months

"Games will not look better than PS4 in a significant way. " We're so far in advance we don't know what the Scorpio's CPU is gonna end up like. It having a big framerate advantage is still a possibility and I would be surprised is MS didn't target this weak spot given how much room they have to plan ahead. MS specifically didn't detail the Scorpio's CPU at the event, I think its up in the air.



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I plan on owning both, but I think Sony is playing this right. I'm disappointed in the lack of UHD blu ray, but I think it would have pushed up the price of the Pro and that is something Sony didn't want to do. I'm worried that Scorpio will be $599. While it will be the more powerful of the two, from what we've already seen of the Pro vs PC the difference isn't that big. Combine that with a price drop on the Pro a year from now and they could potentially sell this console for $250-300 cheaper than the competition.



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My opinion? PS4 Pro > Xbox Scorpio



The slims will be the best sellers of both platforms, as usual. Premium models will help sales and profits, anyway. And together, slims and premiums will help extending consoles' lives.



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I find the whole thing to be silly really, with both sides doing moderate upgrades to their consoles which I barely see a difference to and find them to be ultimately pointless, and yet there are fights about which one is going to beat the other. It's kinda funny and sad to watch.



 

              

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foodfather said:

Neither interest me because I don't plan on adopting 4k any time soon. 4k streaming content just isn't there and the only 4k movies worth owning are The Revanent, Creed, Sicario and Mad Max and a few others that are upcoming. Just not enough.

In 2017. if multiplats continue to be superior on the PS4, I will pick up a vanilla PS4. If the scorpio turns out to be good and improve graphics across the board (regardless of 4K) then I will pick up one when the price is right.

On the actual hardware itself, PS4P seems like a complete misfire in terms of specs and features. The marketing gurus at Sony will be hard at work spinning this one. Its ugly as sin too. 

The Scorpio is a complete misfire too. Yes, the specs seem good, but do the mass consumers really want a 4K disc drive and if the cost is more than $500, its going to be a complete flop. 

Creed and Mad Max are upscaled from 2K masters though. Sicario has a 4K master with 3.4k source format, only The revenant is 4K through and through. However I caved in and bought The revenant on blu-ray for $15 instead of paying $35 for the 4K version, as I don't see any other movies worth getting in 4K yet :/

Sony needs to push psvr with ps4p, that's probably where the real benefits can be seen. Maybe that's why they kept the price low to bundle it next year with psvr for 599.  However the lack of a dedicated psvr port baffles me more than the missing 4k UHD player. Perhaps Sony doesn't have faith in either, or maybe they'll add the psvr external box in next year. A 599 psvr bundle vs a 499 Scorpio will be interesting.