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foodfather said:

Neither interest me because I don't plan on adopting 4k any time soon. 4k streaming content just isn't there and the only 4k movies worth owning are The Revanent, Creed, Sicario and Mad Max and a few others that are upcoming. Just not enough.

In 2017. if multiplats continue to be superior on the PS4, I will pick up a vanilla PS4. If the scorpio turns out to be good and improve graphics across the board (regardless of 4K) then I will pick up one when the price is right.

On the actual hardware itself, PS4P seems like a complete misfire in terms of specs and features. The marketing gurus at Sony will be hard at work spinning this one. Its ugly as sin too. 

The Scorpio is a complete misfire too. Yes, the specs seem good, but do the mass consumers really want a 4K disc drive and if the cost is more than $500, its going to be a complete flop. 

Creed and Mad Max are upscaled from 2K masters though. Sicario has a 4K master with 3.4k source format, only The revenant is 4K through and through. However I caved in and bought The revenant on blu-ray for $15 instead of paying $35 for the 4K version, as I don't see any other movies worth getting in 4K yet :/

Sony needs to push psvr with ps4p, that's probably where the real benefits can be seen. Maybe that's why they kept the price low to bundle it next year with psvr for 599.  However the lack of a dedicated psvr port baffles me more than the missing 4k UHD player. Perhaps Sony doesn't have faith in either, or maybe they'll add the psvr external box in next year. A 599 psvr bundle vs a 499 Scorpio will be interesting.