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Would it perhaps be advisable to wait until the Scorpio actual exists before we start comparing? Comparing a real thing to numbers on a paper seems a tad 'daft'.



 

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Hiku said:
Slimebeast said:

No. In one year from now those 6TFLOP GPUs from AMD won't cost more than the 4.2TFLOP PS4 Pro GPU costs this November. And on top of that Microsoft could opt to lose a little money on each unit sold in order to gain some marketshare.

Plus it would be suicide to price the Scorpion $500 when the competition has been out for a whole year at $400.

Digital Foundry believed the Scorpio will be at least $100 more expensive than Neo. But they don't know what GPU it will use, and Phil Spencer has gone on record since then saying that the Scorpio will allow developers the power to run games at 4K/60f, but they can of course chose to allocate those resources to other things. Still, that sounds like it's going to use something like a GTX 1070 that currently costs $400+ on its own.

What you say sounds logical. There's a threshhold right now in PC gaming when you buy something that is stronger than a Radeon RX 480, Radeon 290 or a GTX 970, the price doubles even if the GPU power goes up by only 40%.

So in other words, diminishing returns. If this relationship holds true even in next fall, then Microsoft made the bad choice, while Sony just like with the PS4 designed the perfect system, giving most bang for your buck.



True successor to PS3. Price is good too. Not bad despite the design.



I'm laughing at all the people who thought PS4 slim would be 250

Anyway, day one on the PS4 pro. Can't wait.

 

Edit: Wait, there's no 4k Blu Ray player in the Pro?...... um, not sure how i feel about that. 



It's not much, but here's an offscreen Uncharted 4 side-by-side comparison

PS4 on the left, Pro on the right



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NobleTeam360 said:

I'm laughing at all the people who thought PS4 slim would be 250

It probably was doable to get it down to that price, Sony just like money too much.

Only a $100 gap between the Slim and the Pro just feels odd to me.



Slimebeast said:

6 TFLOPS is to 4.2 TFLOPS what 1.84 TFLOPS is to 1.3 TFLOPS, so I don't understand why PS4 Pro is launching this year while poor Microsoft will have to wait until the next.

6 TFLOPS is not all that special if people will have had a whole year to get their eyes used to 4.2 TFLOPS. The Scorpion already is beginning to sound underwhelming, relatively speaking.

Scorpion's only chance to stand out at least a little bit is to up the specs to 8 TFLOPS and include the brand new Zen CPU from AMD.

We're so far from its release we might aswell not know its specs. Also could 6TFLOP comfortably fit in an Xbox One size box using PS4's Pro GPU without overheating?

Its very possible that Microsoft was planning Scorpio without anticipating sony to release the Pro this year if at all. Eurogame suspect they plan on using a downgraded Vega GPU, in which case they can probably scale up to 8Tflops quite comfortably. I said it before but I think they should just skip Scorpio and release a fully next gen system in 2018.

 



Slim looks good though the PS4 Pro is too over the top design wise imo.



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GribbleGrunger said:
Would it perhaps be advisable to wait until the Scorpio actual exists before we start comparing? Comparing a real thing to numbers on a paper seems a tad 'daft'.

Scorpio exist the specs are already official, they announced it during E3 do you remember?

Xbox Scorpio: - 6TF - 320GB/s GDDR

PS4 Pro: - 4.19TFLOP - 218GB/s GDDR5 - 2.1GHz Jaguar



Slimebeast said:

6 TFLOPS is to 4.2 TFLOPS what 1.84 TFLOPS is to 1.3 TFLOPS, so I don't understand why PS4 Pro is launching this year while poor Microsoft will have to wait until the next.

6 TFLOPS is not all that special if people will have had a whole year to get their eyes used to 4.2 TFLOPS. The Scorpion already is beginning to sound underwhelming, relatively speaking.

Scorpion's only chance to stand out at least a little bit is to up the specs to 8 TFLOPS and include the brand new Zen CPU from AMD.

It could easily be higher than 6 tf, that is just the baseline number obviously, lots of time until the hw is finalized.  Wouldn't shock me if it ends up closer to 8 than 6 tf.  Scorpio  is more of a new gen console than what the ps4-pro is, with the larger time and power gap from xb1.  MS is aiming for a legit 4k console whereas the 4pro is  just a starter 4k system.

Question becomes, will the ps4pro's head start be like the PS2 headstart (power doesn't matter as much), or dreamcast (too soon)...