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Forums - Nintendo - Emily Rogers: NX Below XB1/PS4 In Power; Battery Life Is Not Great

teigaga on 03 September 2016
Acevil said:
Wyrdness said:
How exactly can you determine battery life but not know exact number of hours or time?

I think it the assumption this battery cannot handle the power of this device. Vita and 3DS battery were shit as well. 

Having a battery in line with Vita is a realistic expectation. 

3-6 hours depending  on the game you're playing, 8+ for non gaming applications seems about right.

Both devices used one of, if not the most powerful mobile chips for their respective year (2011-2016)



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Acevil on 03 September 2016
teigaga said:
Acevil said:

I think it the assumption this battery cannot handle the power of this device. Vita and 3DS battery were shit as well. 

Having a battery in line with Vita is a realistic expectation. 

3-6 hours depending  on the game you're playing, 8+ for non gaming applications seems about right.

Both devices used one of, if not the most powerful mobile chips for their respective year (2011-2016)

It is realistic, does not make it anyless shitty. Sadly our society/culture/businesses have not valued Battery life as much as Power. 



 

daredevil.shark on 03 September 2016

Why fan? I thought liquid cooling will do pretty well for it. As for rest of the configuration it doesn't look much appealing.



teigaga on 03 September 2016
Acevil said:
teigaga said:

Having a battery in line with Vita is a realistic expectation. 

3-6 hours depending  on the game you're playing, 8+ for non gaming applications seems about right.

Both devices used one of, if not the most powerful mobile chips for their respective year (2011-2016)

It is realistic, does not make it anyless shitty. Sadly our society/culture/businesses have not valued Battery life as much as Power. 

Nope, Battery life doesn't sell systems ;)

Fortunately for me, I barely game on the go. 



bigtakilla on 03 September 2016
teigaga said:
bigtakilla said:

Where did he say there would be a difference in graphics exactly?


https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/743138601836306432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Aounuma sorry, not Miyamoto.

I didn't see Aonuma post anything.



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Soundwave on 03 September 2016
teigaga said:
Soundwave said:

They could do it using the tech they have available. I'm pretty sure they could go the whole SCD dock route. Two Tegra X2s in unison IMO would get you pretty close to XB1/PS4 graphics on the TV. 

But I just have a bad feeling Nintendo will gimp this thing. 

Its simply not worth Nintendo going to such lengths to get bad ports of PS4/X1 games. I can't wait to get the NX but I'm not playing a gimped version of FFXV and Mass Effect Andromeda on it. 90% of those who want to plays those games would much rather do so on the X1/PS4 for technical reason, alongside the fact they most likely already own those systems or a PC.

Aounuma said that the only difference between the NX and Wii U version of Zelda will be the graphics, that should be hope at least that Nintendo aren't going to overly gimp whatever Tegra card they're using. `

I would buy some multiplats in that case. Lets take a game like Batman: Arkham Knight, again lets say in portable mode it can run like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQxNpEaCsiw

We'll even reduce the resolution to 1024x600 vs 1366x786 which it's running on a mobile Nvidia 830M (this is almost 40% less pixels to render) to save battery life. 

Now if I could take that game at home and plug into a "home dock" which then can run the same game at 900p or 1080p with medium/high effects instead of low effects ... 

I actually would choose the NX version of many multiplats over PS4/XB1. The few extra pixels or whatever in difference in home mode would not cancel out the huge advantage of being able to play the same game anywhere I want and still be able to get almost the same visual fidelity at home. I'd love to have a version of say NHL or FIFA that isn't dramtically different from the console version. 

If Nintendo could deliver that, IMO they'd have a pretty awesome ecosystem. That said, I think unfortunately Nintendo will fuck this up. They always find a way to do so. 



zorg1000 on 03 September 2016
bigtakilla said:
Soundwave said:

It does sound like she got the 3DS supported through 2018 stuff correct as it looks like Nintendo is going to be supporting the 3DS for a while. 

I dunno if they're "so vague", she is pretty specific about screen size, resolution, detachable controllers, USB ports, and many other details. For battery life it's not like even a leaker is going to sit there and measure the exact amount of battery time, so that's kinda undertanable for that to be more of a ball park figure. 

A Tegra X1 with a 6+ inch screen was never going to be a marathon battery machine, I'd say 4 hours is about the best you're gonna get. 

A day after they announced a 3ds dedicated direct, lol. I mean do you honestly think she has had a an actual leak ever? I've honestly never heard anything come out of her mouth that hasn't already been said, blatantly obvious if you think about it, or completely wrong. 

she said that before the direct was announced



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se7en7thre3 on 03 September 2016
PwerlvlAmy said:
ever since female link situation, i cant take anything she says seriously

I'm also skeptical but, unless the source is purposely feeding garbage info, wherever its coming from has to be credible at least .  dat confidence:

" I can't stress enough how confident I am about the info in this article...I'm not pulling anyone's leg here..."

 

 




Mr.GameCrazy on 03 September 2016
Soundwave said:
teigaga said:

Its simply not worth Nintendo going to such lengths to get bad ports of PS4/X1 games. I can't wait to get the NX but I'm not playing a gimped version of FFXV and Mass Effect Andromeda on it. 90% of those who want to plays those games would much rather do so on the X1/PS4 for technical reason, alongside the fact they most likely already own those systems or a PC.

Aounuma said that the only difference between the NX and Wii U version of Zelda will be the graphics, that should be hope at least that Nintendo aren't going to overly gimp whatever Tegra card they're using. `

I would buy some multiplats in that case. Lets take a game like Batman: Arkham Knight, again lets say in portable mode it can run like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQxNpEaCsiw

We'll even reduce the resolution to 1024x600 vs 1366x786 which it's running on a mobile Nvidia 830M (this is almost 40% less pixels to render) to save battery life. 

Now if I could take that game at home and plug into a "home dock" which then can run the same game at 900p or 1080p with medium/high effects instead of low effects ... 

I actually would choose the NX version of many multiplats over PS4/XB1. The few extra pixels or whatever in difference in home mode would not cancel out the huge advantage of being able to play the same game anywhere I want and still be able to get almost the same visual fidelity at home. I'd love to have a version of say NHL or FIFA that isn't dramtically different from the console version. 

If Nintendo could deliver that, IMO they'd have a pretty awesome ecosystem. That said, I think unfortunately Nintendo will fuck this up. They always find a way to do so. 

I don't know about Arkham Knight. From what I've heard about the game, it isn't very well optimized for PCs (even wth the updates). Even with the resolution going down, I doubt it will perform well unless they work very hard to fix the performance issues.



Soundwave on 03 September 2016
Mr.GameCrazy said:
Soundwave said:

I would buy some multiplats in that case. Lets take a game like Batman: Arkham Knight, again lets say in portable mode it can run like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQxNpEaCsiw

We'll even reduce the resolution to 1024x600 vs 1366x786 which it's running on a mobile Nvidia 830M (this is almost 40% less pixels to render) to save battery life. 

Now if I could take that game at home and plug into a "home dock" which then can run the same game at 900p or 1080p with medium/high effects instead of low effects ... 

I actually would choose the NX version of many multiplats over PS4/XB1. The few extra pixels or whatever in difference in home mode would not cancel out the huge advantage of being able to play the same game anywhere I want and still be able to get almost the same visual fidelity at home. I'd love to have a version of say NHL or FIFA that isn't dramtically different from the console version. 

If Nintendo could deliver that, IMO they'd have a pretty awesome ecosystem. That said, I think unfortunately Nintendo will fuck this up. They always find a way to do so. 

I don't know about Arkham Knight. From what I've heard about the game, it isn't very well optimized for PCs (even wth the updates). Even with the resolution going down, I doubt it will perform well unless they work very hard to fix the performance issues.

I'm just saying hypothetically if the Tegra X2/custom Tegra in the NX can roughly match the performance of a Nvidia 830M which is a lower end laptop GPU ... they'd be able to get even PS4 ports which would be playable well enough. I mean you can see that Batman clip there, it's not as if the PS4/XB1 versions are 10x better.

An 830M is a 550 GFLOP GPU that only uses DDR3 RAM (so 14.4GB memory bandwidth) and its pixel and texture abilities are not exactly higher than the Tegra chips either. It can run other games too like Star Wars Battlefront, the new Forza game, and even The Witcher III runs on it at 768p but with a mid-20s frame rate. 

This is Witcher 3, which is about as demanding of a game as you can get, running on an 830M and it still looks pretty good to me. 1366x768 is still a pretty high resolution, if you brought that down to 1024x600, you'd probably get a higher framerate too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLKCuDCbRv4

Then if you had a home dock, you can close that gap by letting the game run at a higher resolution with higher effects. 

If Nintendo could pull that off, that'd be something, and I actually think the Tegra X2 can perform at that level, but Nintendo will end up doing something stupid like gimping the battery and then gimping the chipset because a mom in their product testing told them the NX was too heavy or something.