| melbye said: SD cards and an HDMI out and maybe it could work. No interest in playing games like Uncharted on a 4" screen |
I get the point of the SD cards and totally agree, but it's a handheld... what's the point of it if you wanna connect it to a TV? Might as well just get a PS4 no?
Unless it:
- Is tablet sized (i.e. 7" or so)
- Has a 5" phone SKU
- Is built on top of android and you use android for all your app and regular needs, including access to google play store
- The Vita OS or whatever custom OS is a dedicated app that you launch from android
- Has detachable controller set up and bluetooth option to play with your DS4
- Has TV Out option
I don't know why they would bother.
I'd commend Sony if they made another handheld. After how the Vita did, I wouldn't think they'd try again. If they do, I hope Sony does better with it than they did with the Vita.
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setsunatenshi said:
money sink right? i'd love to see that evidence that Sony lost money on the Vita at all. Is there another Sony console with a higher attach rate than the Vita? i have a feeling people who don't own a vita have a lot of observations to make about the handheld, especially how many games are or aren't being released for it.
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I have one. Sony hasn't done enough for it.
| Ruler said: plz just give us a vita phone, more there isnt really needed to save the vita and handhelds |
Right on the money, give us the PlayStation phone we have been asking for since 2005. I understood why they couldn't do it during the Sony Ericsson days, but their is no reason not to do it now. If we had a high end PlayStation Phone with real games from Sony and third parties with full PSN support it would sell better than PS4 is right now.
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NewGuy said: They definitly need to have a dedicated handheld version if they want to go forward with this, and keep their core gamer maket happy. A 7" 1080p handheld with a full DS4 controll scheme on it would be absolutly king for this. Also it should have a massive 6000mAh battery so it could last for the long haul. - Has a 5" phone SKU This is the single most important piece of the puzzle. If they plan to make another handheld it has to have a phone model. This is the only way to have high enough usage to get devs to prot their apps to the device. if they want things like banking apps, resturant apps, health apps, and the like, they have to have this in people hands 24/7. - Is built on top of android and you use android for all your app and regular needs, including access to google play store No, No, No, No. Sony can not have any ties to Android if they are looking to continue with PlayStation in the mobile field. They have to keep the PlayStation brand safe, and having Android tied up with PlayStation would be dangerous for the brand. Sony just needs to focus on getting their core gamers to switch to the new PlayStation OS, then they can slowly start to build up an app store, and focus on broadening past the first 50 Million people after that. - The Vita OS or whatever custom OS is a dedicated app that you launch from android Again, No, Absolutly Not. They can not have any ties to Android with a native gaming program. Things like PS Now, PS Vue, PS Video, and PS Music are fine. Anything cloud based that can not be pirated is perfect for Android, local gaming content on android will get hack in days, and Sony will be caught up in another battle with hackers. Secondly, they absolutly can not use an ARM based system so that throws Andoid out the window. Any device going forward needs to be based on the same mobile based CPU in the PS4. Sony needs to have a single unified APU across all home and mobile devices, and one universal development language to make app development and scailing seamless. - Has detachable controller set up and bluetooth option to play with your DS4 This will be great if one of the devices is a straight up slab smartphone design. However, I feel like the Tablet, and at least one version of the phone should fell very much like using a DS4 already. - Has TV Out option If Sony does another handheld it has to have a shared library with all other PlayStation products. So I don't see the handheld having TV out, but it will absolulty have cross buy, so every game you own will be playable on your PS4, you PS Tablet, and your PS Phone. |
If Sony comes out with a mobile line of products that plays every title in the PS4 libaray and shares apps with the PS4, then they are on their way to taking back a huge chunck of the mobile market. They have no chance to ever gain traction with Xperia, because it can never take advantage of all of Sony. A PlayStation Phone would have all of the resources it needs to be a success, and it would do it in a way that would see Sony make massive profit and revenue gains, and eat away at Apple and Googles mobile duoply.
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gooch_destroyer said:
I have one. Sony hasn't done enough for it. |
Vita came at a bad time, Sony was in a mess and finding its feet under Kaz. To make and launch a product like the Vita costs a lot, Sony supported it initially but when they weren't getting the results they hoped for, they weren't prepared to risk losing money by continuing it's support and dropped it quickly.
I believe in this type of healthy Sony and healthy PlayStation environment Sony could give handhelds another try and make it work.
Ganoncrotch said:
Psp has 300+m software sales recorded here, not including digital downloads since the Playstation store was available on the PSP in its later years. To put that in perspective the PS4 so far has sold 260m software (with obviously a ton of digital games too) But even the 3ds which doesn't have as much digital sales has moved just 246m games so yeah... could say that the PSP sold a lot of units for piracy but at the same time each console sold had at least 4 legit games sold along with it. |
Let's also not forget there was an entire SKU that was Digital only.
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gooch_destroyer said:
I have one. Sony hasn't done enough for it. |
I could pinpoint specific mistakes like the proprietary mem cards andlack of L2/R2, but I'm quite happy with my Vita and own it since the day of release.
Going forward, if they could solve these 2 issues, plus boost the performance in a way it could play the full PS3 digital library, I'm sure it would be extremelly successful.
If, and that's a pretty damn big if, they have a solution to unify their library across Neo, regular PS4 and a future handhelf (obviously at lower specs) for digital games, that would be monumental. They would have to make sure there is easy scalability between all devices for games going forward.
That would come with a pretty big price tag, more in line with the cost of a premium phone than with a console and probably would need to be advertised as such. I say they are crazy enough to give it a shot :)
I just cant see them revealing 3 new pieces of hardware. That would be crazy, and honestly reeks of hybris if they do.
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