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pray4mojo on 26 August 2016
curl-6 said:
Moonhero said:
It's coming out in 2017... 4k...

So's Scorpio and possibly Neo, but they won't be doing native 4K. (At least not in complex AAA games)

Scorpio and Neo also won't have Zelda, Mario, Metroid and Smash. You give me those franchises and I don't care what resolution the console can push.



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curl-6 on 26 August 2016
pray4mojo said:
curl-6 said:

So's Scorpio and possibly Neo, but they won't be doing native 4K. (At least not in complex AAA games)

Scorpio and Neo also won't have Zelda, Mario, Metroid and Smash. You give me those franchises and I don't care what resolution the console can push.

My point was not "Scorpio and Neo will be better because they'll be higher resolution", but rather, "expecting NX to be 4K cos it's coming out in 2017 is silly because even Scorpio and Neo won't be 4K machines."



Solid-Stark on 26 August 2016

1080p, WiiU level detail, 60fps. At least.



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pray4mojo on 26 August 2016
curl-6 said:
pray4mojo said:

Scorpio and Neo also won't have Zelda, Mario, Metroid and Smash. You give me those franchises and I don't care what resolution the console can push.

My point was not "Scorpio and Neo will be better because they'll be higher resolution", but rather, "expecting NX to be 4K cos it's coming out in 2017 is silly because even Scorpio and Neo won't be 4K machines."

Oh I know lol. I was just building off your point. 



Azzanation on 26 August 2016

Both would be nice. However Nintendo games look amazing anyway.



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Miyamotoo on 26 August 2016
Soundwave said:
SuperNova said:
720p and better effects all the way. I honestly don't mind the resolution as long as it doesn't drop beneath HD in 'home console mode'.
I wouldn't even mind 540p on the go if it meant freeing up additional power for the graphics. As long as the NX has a good quality panel that is not too large smaller resolutions will still look good on the go.

If it can maintain the gap in the above Unreal Engine 4 Demo with PS4/XB1 games, that is to say some lowering of effects/details at 540p in portable mode and 720p for "home" mode ... I'd take that right now and run. 

Hopefully the NX can do about that. If it's worse, I'll admit I'll be somewhat dissapointed. 

In docked mode I fully expecting 1080p for Nintendo games, and 720/900p for ports of XB1/PS4 games.

 

 

curl-6 said:
Soundwave said:

This is the same company that took a system that was $99 already for three years, moderately overclocked it and sold it for $250 with a different plastic controller when you could get an XBox 360 for $299.99. 

My guess is $269.99. $100 more than the vanilla small 3DS for a full blown tablet device that can also double as a micro-console is fair. 

This time I do think Nintendo will actually have a very good launch lineup and even a post-launch big title to ensure reasonable sales. 

Nintendo can be dense, but after getting fucked up the rear end by both the 3DS and Wii U launches, I think they've finally learned their lesson. 

That kind of lightning doesn't strike twice. The market today is vastly different than it was in 2006. If NX cannot offer competitive specs and software support to PS4/X1, then they need to make it significantly cheaper to compensate. They can't go head to head with MS/Sony in pricing, that's a red ocean and they're the smaller fish.

To be fair it seems that NX is handheld and home console in same time, so you will have handheld and home console for same price, that definitely have a higher value for platform like that than just separate home console like PS4 or XB1, so even price of $299 want be high but evrething above would be definatly high.

Saying that, I expecting price point of around $250, $299 at most.

 

 

Pemalite said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yes it seems we have.

I don't agree at all that Wii U games are whole generations behind.

I am very pleased how Nintendo Wii U games look, so just Wii U games in 1080p with AA and some smaler improvements and I would be satisfied.

Zelda BotW is beautiful looking game despite don't have high-end graphics.

Graphically they are a generation behind, I can provide examples and images pointing out the flaws even with the best looking games.
Artistically, Nintendo has always been in a league of it's own though.

Really depends what you mean when you say graphically, if you mean beauty of graphics, they are definitely not generation behind, if you mean graphically from technical standpoint, yes they are, but I really care about how graphics looks not technical side of that graphic. Obvious examples are Zelda BotW and Horizon Dawn, Horizon Dawn graphic is technically at least one gen above Zelda BotW, but I like more Zelda BotW graphics despite that.



curl-6 on 26 August 2016
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

That kind of lightning doesn't strike twice. The market today is vastly different than it was in 2006. If NX cannot offer competitive specs and software support to PS4/X1, then they need to make it significantly cheaper to compensate. They can't go head to head with MS/Sony in pricing, that's a red ocean and they're the smaller fish.

To be fair it seems that NX is handheld and home console in same time, so you will have handheld and home console for same price, that definitely have a higher value for platform like that than just separate home console like PS4 or XB1, so even price of $299 want be high but evrething above would be definatly high.

Saying that, I expecting price point of around $250, $299 at most.

Consumers aren't going to see it as "wow, it's two devices at once" though, they're going to assess it as a single gaming device, versus other single gaming devices.



Davman on 26 August 2016

I don't understand why you talk so much for resolution in console games.
I admit i cannot play pc games lower than 1080p but my pc monitor is just 30-40 cm from my face.
But my tv is 3 meter away and even though is 50 inches i don't have problem with 720p games.

Even though for mobile gaming i understand the resolution thing because you play from close range too.



Miyamotoo on 26 August 2016
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

To be fair it seems that NX is handheld and home console in same time, so you will have handheld and home console for same price, that definitely have a higher value for platform like that than just separate home console like PS4 or XB1, so even price of $299 want be high but evrething above would be definatly high.

Saying that, I expecting price point of around $250, $299 at most.

Consumers aren't going to see it as "wow, it's two devices at once" though, they're going to assess it as a single gaming device, versus other single gaming devices.

You cant know that, if Nintendo done marketing right they can definatly see it like two devaice in one, console that you can play at home or take it with you and play on go, they can definatly see it like mobile devaice and home console in same time. I am pretty sure Nintendo market will be focused on that, and that makes sense because it seems that main focus for Nintendo is to try to upgrade mobile platform players, PS4/XB1 players are not main focus for NX but offcourse some PS4/XB1 players will go for new Nintendo platform that is handheld and home console in same time.



curl-6 on 26 August 2016
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Consumers aren't going to see it as "wow, it's two devices at once" though, they're going to assess it as a single gaming device, versus other single gaming devices.

You cant know that, if Nintendo done marketing right they can definatly see it like two devaice in one, console that you can play at home or take it with you and play on go, they can definatly see it like mobile devaice and home console in same time. I am pretty sure Nintendo market will be focused on that, and that makes sense because it seems that main focus for Nintendo is to try to upgrade mobile platform players, PS4/XB1 players are not main focus for NX but offcourse some PS4/XB1 players will go for new Nintendo platform that is handheld and home console in same time.

Nobody sees multimedia devices that way any more. This isn't the 90s. A tablet isn't seen as "six devices in one" it's just seen as a tablet. Serving multiple roles isn't special any more, its the norm. NX will simply be seen as a singular gaming device.