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Forums - Nintendo - Tegra X1 successor Detailed by Nvidia (likely NX SoC)

Miyamotoo on 23 August 2016
Luke888 said:
JRPGfan said:

Kinda like when your SLI two GPUs? maybe.

That ll make the NX a b*tch to develope games for though, imo.

On the other hand it not being more powerfull could keep 3rd party away as well.

That would drive up the price of the docking station part though, and probably mean it wont be sold with the handheld.

So like a "199$ handheld NX" and "a 100$ docking station" thats sold seperatly ?

Yup, that would be ideal.

Actual ideal would be 149$ handheld. ;)



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Werix357 on 23 August 2016

Also comparing GFLOPs between two different architectures (AMD Vs Nvidia) isn't a good idea.



Miyamotoo on 23 August 2016
JRPGfan said:

Yep 625 Gflops is the same number Ive read other places too.
Maybe the NX will have this when its docked and can use more power, than when its used as a handheld.

Still this means at most it ll be 1/3 of the PS4, in terms of power (when docked and not downclocked).

Pretty powerfull for a handheld. Not that great in terms of a home console.

Well we can look from other perspective, 625 Gflops is 3-4x stronger than Wii U.

Also like people stating, comparing GFLOPs between two different architectures (AMD Vs Nvidia) isn't a good idea.



Werix357 on 23 August 2016
CaptainExplosion said:
Miyamotoo said:

Well we can look from other perspective, 625 Gflops is 3-4x stronger than Wii U.

Also like people stating, comparing GFLOPs between two different architectures (AMD Vs Nvidia) isn't a good idea.

Okay, but why not?

If you look at discrete GPU'S and compare GFLOPs between AMD and Nvidia you'll notice it doesn't always reflect actual performance.



Mbolibombo on 23 August 2016

So I was under the impression that the X1 chip was capable of 1TFlop ? How come the X2 is just 625 GFlop?

Or is this page just bonkers? http://www.anandtech.com/show/8811/nvidia-tegra-x1-preview/2



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Jumpin on 23 August 2016

Isn't it going to be the Tegra X1?



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JRPGfan on 23 August 2016
CaptainExplosion said:
Mbolibombo said:
So I was under the impression that the X1 chip was capable of 1TFlop ? How come the X2 is just 625 GFlop?

Or is this page just bonkers? http://www.anandtech.com/show/8811/nvidia-tegra-x1-preview/2

Well shit, looks like the NX is getting the downgrade. -_-

Nvidia reports FP16 performance, when they mention how strong their Tegra X1 is... why? cuz big numbers fool people.

Sony & MS 's consoles are useing FP32 (twice as demanding) (16 x 2 = 32). Also known as half or full floating points.

Thats why Tegra X1 is 1tflop fp16, but only 500 Gflops when you meassure it the same way as the PS4 or XB1.

 

Does that answear your question? in a head to head compairison it looks like this:

FP32 the tegra X1 is just 500 Gflops (0.5  teraflops).

FP32 the PS4 is 1840 Gflops (1.84 teraflops).

 

The tegra X1 is 512 Gflops(fp32)

The tegra X2 is 625 Gflops (fp32)

So its a upgrade, just not a gigantic one.

 

Basically 1/3 the power of the PS4.

If your generious and say flops arnt all equal, you can probably give it a 10-15% boost or so.

Point still stands, its closer to 1/3 than 1/2, of the power.

That is assumeing they dont make a custom chip, or throw 2 of these chips into it or some such.



nomad on 23 August 2016

If it hasn't been said yet, then I'll say it. That is not a mobile SoC.



Soundwave on 23 August 2016
nomad said:
If it hasn't been said yet, then I'll say it. That is not a mobile SoC.

The PX2 obviously isn't it's basically two Tegra X2s + I think two full Nvidia GPUs on top of that and 16 cameras. Obviously that config is not going into a portable game system. 



Soundwave on 23 August 2016
Luke888 said:
JRPGfan said:

Kinda like when your SLI two GPUs? maybe.

That ll make the NX a b*tch to develope games for though, imo.

On the other hand it not being more powerfull could keep 3rd party away as well.

That would drive up the price of the docking station part though, and probably mean it wont be sold with the handheld.

So like a "199$ handheld NX" and "a 100$ docking station" thats sold seperatly ?

Yup, that would be ideal.

That's a little on the cheap side, the hardware would be really poor if its forced to be that cheap. 

People need to understand this device will do everything a Wii U AND a 3DS does. To buy both today will cost you $500. 

Even a Wii + DS back in the day cost $400 combined. 

I think something like $269.99 for the base NX and if they even make one, $119.99 for the NX SCD dock, would be more realistic. $269.99 is still way cheaper than the $349.99 that the Wii U started at, I mean shit it would be cheaper than the Wii U is right now. 

To be honest for what Nintendo is attempting to build even $299.99 would not be out of the question. This is way more functional than a Wii U, and if it can run a lot of the more popular Android apps, that's quite cheap, an iPad Mini 4 with 16GB of storage is $400 alone.