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Bandorr said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
You're using Microsoft's software. Theyre going to advertise their stuff to you. Just like if you visit Google on a non-Google browser, they say something about Chrome being better.

People are comparing it to other game companies, games are not a relevant comparison. You can't play Sony software on a Microsoft console. Otherwise, Sony would advertise the PS4 version.

Do they? I just loaded google up in IE - no mention of it there. Loaded it up in Firefox - I don't see any mention there either.

Safari? Nope still no pop up saying "chrome is better use chrome".

So can you explain - or link to a source - how visiting google on any browser will cause it to say "using chrome is better"?

 

There you go. Took me one try on IE. Obviously, they are not going to bombard you with the ad every single time you use Google :)



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People are mixing things up, windows is neither a public service nor a public space.

They're not cheating consumers here, they're not trying to deliberately make chrome slower or something like that, they can advertise any product they want, AS LONG AS IT WAS IN THE GUIDELINES OF THE PROGRAM.

They have been sued over the years for unfaire practices, but not because they were advertising their products on their own platforms...

And yes Windows 10 was a free upgrades, but I guess none of the people who run it right now got the paid version. But even if it's the paid version, they could advertise their own products.

Seriously people, when you are on your Xbox One or PS4, and there is a publicity for the store, showing a specific game, if it's a Microsoft or Sony game, it's not unfair practices.



vivster said:
This is bad. If they don't label it clearly as advertisement and/or provide a link to prove the claim it's straight up criminal.

Tbh they shouldn't even be popping it up at all. Your OS shouldnt ever become an ad bot that shoves ads in your face from time to time, not even the web browser either. Chrome on the ohter hand is still a bit of a resource hog, but Edge isn't exactly the best browser on the planet either. 



               

Alby_da_Wolf said:
LurkerJ said:
What's the point of Edge?

I only use cross-platform browsers. I want my passwords/bookmarks synced automatically on all of my devices. Hassle-free.

If MS is desperate to get more people to use Edge, they should port it to the devices people use the most. Android and iOS.

Me too, my main browser is Firefox for at least two reasons, the first is that it's the one that can open the highest number of windows and tabs without becoming excessively slow and slowing the system down, the second is that I can share the same user account very easily amongst different OS' also locally, without the need of online services. In the past there were other reasons too, not being tied to the OS too tightly, when FF crashed it didn't make Windows crash with it too, unlike IE, and it was a lot safer too, as IE used to store sensible user data without user's permission in the file index.dat.
Chrome is my secondary browser, I keep it cleaner, with less extensions and plugins and I open a lot fewer windows and tabs with it, If I opened more than 100 tabs with Chrome like I do with FF, the system would crawl to a halt.
Nevertheless I still like Chrome a lot more than any MS browser I ever tried.

Being able to use any browser anywhere is essential. Isn't it enough that extensions took so long to make it to Edge?

It's almost hilarious how MS is missing such an obvious concept. 

Make better products, and people will gladly use them.

No one actually likes to go out of their way to install a different browser. It's just not fun. It's not our fault Edge isn't good enough.



Doesn't this count as adware?



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Ganoncrotch said:
DonFerrari said:
And before we had I.E. as the main platform to download Firefox, and Bing as the searching gear for looking up to it or to google... now they only labeled it Edge... but it kept it fame and now MS is pushing harder.

Internet explorer is still tucked away inside Windows 10 as well, for compatibility reasons with certain sites for banking etc! Hidden in the back of course, but it's still there, doing it's IE thing :)

Well, on that they don't have much choice, and if it didn't had that we wouldn't be able to use a lot of bank and govenrment sites (in fact, in my company PC if I use a I.E. version that is too new it won't open a lot of sites)

Ganoncrotch said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm waiting for a ad on PS4 saying how worse and slower/weaker X1 is.

Enjoy 36% more frames/Pixels if you played this game on PS4 instead?

Yep, they should put it in every screen loading and game start.

LudicrousSpeed said:
You're using Microsoft's software. Theyre going to advertise their stuff to you. Just like if you visit Google on a non-Google browser, they say something about Chrome being better.

People are comparing it to other game companies, games are not a relevant comparison. You can't play Sony software on a Microsoft console. Otherwise, Sony would advertise the PS4 version.

Sony had multiplats in the past (that if I'm not wrong even had PC versions, but wouldn't say Nintendo console version was better) and also the company that was recently spun off that done MMO was PC compatible and even then they didn't put advertise against the PC version inside the game.

Besides that, the one comparing other gaming companies was someone trying to defend MS not the opposite.

And again, the problem with the advertise isn't the advertise itself, it's that MS is using an unfair practice (like they done in the past against Netscape, by offering their free browser already pre-instaled on the windows itself), because they are leveraging their monopoly in OS to promote their products while also tarnishing their competitor and trying to move sales by that.

And google saying their site works better in their browser is a lot more like I.E. in the past asking to be default browser than this case in hand because it didn't said "Google Chrome is X% better than this browser you are using" and on the case of google you are willingly going to their page instead of the OS being installed in the machine you bought and also giving intrusive ads.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Bandorr said:

Do they? I just loaded google up in IE - no mention of it there. Loaded it up in Firefox - I don't see any mention there either.

Safari? Nope still no pop up saying "chrome is better use chrome".

So can you explain - or link to a source - how visiting google on any browser will cause it to say "using chrome is better"?

 

There you go. Took me one try on IE. Obviously, they are not going to bombard you with the ad every single time you use Google :)

Google working better with Chrome is definitely different to "your PC battery will last 36% longer with this browser" though, one is a simple case of their site and search engine being utterly as compatible as possible with their code used in their own browser. The other relies on graphics drivers, PC cpus, screen size, battery capacity, even if on a single device it was true that you could get a 36% longer battery by running edge instead of Chrome chances are on 99.9999% of devices you would not see the same results because of all the factors which have to be taken into account, that said the advert/tip does say "up to" and if broadband speeds have thought users anything, the words "up to" should always mean "in our wildest hopes and dreams, once in a blue moon, if the wind is blowing in the right direction and no one else is doing anything in the world which uses electricity".

Still though I think there is a big difference between "our search engine works best with our browser" and "your PC/tablet battery will work for 36% longer with our browser" one is plausible the other is a Pokemon holding a leek!



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