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Einsam_Delphin said:
Tlozjb said:

Interviewer: "It seems more to me that the NX will have an effect on the Wii U due to the fact that both will be consoles."

Kimishima: "The NX is neither the successor to the Wii U nor to the 3DS. It's a new way of playing games, which I think will have a larger impact than the Wii U, but I don't feel it's a pure replacement for the Wii U."

http://nintendoeverything.com/kimishima-comments-on-nintendo-movies-mobile-nx/

While he does suggest the hybrid idea, but he also pretty much says that whatever it is, it will be primarily be a home console since he doesn't feel it will be a pure replacement for the Wii U, it will not be a successor to Wii U or 3DS, but it will be a home console, but also not a pure replacement to Wii U.  So by Kimishima's words we can get:

- Hybrid concept

- Primarily a home console.

 

No where is the word primarily used. Not a pure Wii U replacement =/= primarily a home console. As explained, it doesn't make any sense for the hybrid to technically be a home console that can be played on the go rather than a handheld that can played on your TV. The Wii U is just mentioned more in their PR speaks because that console is dead already while the 3DS is still selling so they probably don't want people thinking it's getting replaced yet.

He is clearly talking about a home console, or in the case of looking at the rumor, a primarily home console hybrid.  He doensn't try to dismiss the idea of NX being a home console, he just says it isn't the successor to the Wii U, therefore not a "Wii 3", but it is clear that it is primarily a home console, but because of the hybrid concept, not a "pure replacement for the Wii U"



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I'll buy it if it's cheap and gets lots of good 3rd party support. Sony won't be releasing a new handheld so what choice do I have? I won't be playing it on a TV though. The screen has to be big and clean.



Einsam_Delphin said:
FloatingWaffles said:

That's the exact problem with it being a Hybrid in the first place. But whatever, Nintendo can have another generation with no third party support if this is truly what they want.

Releasing a weaker console than the PS4 years after the PS4 has launched? Lol, god damn Nintendo I wish you good luck. Not to mention the Neo and Scorpio coming out later.

 

No western third party support (which imo would be the case no matter what Nintendo did but I digress), but they'll have Japanese support by default. That plus the unified library should allow for more support than even the 3DS got.

Now you see that's where I disagree though. Nintendo COULD get ALL third party support if they would stop fucking up all their consoles imo.

With the Wii U they had the horrible marketing and people had no idea it was a new system, they poured all the money into the controller so the system was underpowered as fuck, then they didn't even use the new controller they made for anything special most of the time. 

It seems that Nintendo always gives developers a reason not to support it.

Now once again with the NX (if these rumors are true) they are once again launching a system that is severely underpowered. Sure, it will get more games at a faster rate from NINTENDO since they can just focus on a single device, but I guess that's all the system is going to be yet again just like the Wii U: a device where you can only play Nintendo games since third party games aren't releasing on it.



And ot not have to quote much, voila here it is, Reggie calls the NX a home console.

http://nintendoeverything.com/reggie-indicates-that-nx-is-a-home-console/



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If this rumor is true, then Nintendo is dead to me. The execs at Nintendo should commit seppuku if they leave the home console space. And it makes the lack of an exclusive Zelda on Wii U even more unforgivable.

Not to mention handhelds are dead outside Japan.



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The thing about this if true, Parents wont hesitate to buy a "console" for their kids, that they can also play on the go, as opposed to buying them a 3DS and a wii-u or other system.

That alone will shift alot of units just for ease.



FloatingWaffles said:

Sure, maybe Japan will support it a lot but it's going to be another Wii U level of third party support yet again. 

 

That sentence is contradictory, Japanese support means it wont be Wii U levels of third party support a.k.a. none at all besides partnerships.

Also to your response to me, I feel Nintendo systems are bought almost entirely for Nintendo games, so third party games, while they can still sell well, are probably gonna sell significantly worse than their PS/XB counterparts as those systems are known for third party games which gel with the generally mature/gritty first party offerings and already have established Call of Duty, Fifa, etc. fanbases on them. If this rumor is true then it means Nintendo has realized this and instead of focusing on making a better ecosystem for third partys they're making a better ecosystem for Nintendo games.



How would this work for multi-player games? I don't see them requiring multiple NX's for that, and extra wireless controllers would also be weird since it would render the detachable controls a moot point... 



spemanig said:
TheLastStarFighter said:

The detachable motion controllers, obviously. 

Is this a joke, or do you genuinely believe that detachable motion controllers make any sense for a portable system?

You set NX up on a table, with the screen upright in front of you, now you use it's stand to hold it up, then take the controllers off and play games alone or pass one controller to a friend to include them in a local multiplayer game.

This actually brings a more console like style of gamplay to a portable system, along with the potential to turn that portable device into a more social gaming experience, anywhere (so long as you have power). Imagine you're sitting in a coffee shop, bump into a friend who hasn't seen an NX before, he would like to play something with you, so you load a game the two of you can play right there and then.

If more than one NX can link up locally it's possible you could have big LAN tournaments of games with a bunch of people playing together anywhere and with 2 sharing a single system. All because you could set the system up on a table and detach the controllers.

That's pretty different from a tablet that can just connect to the TV.

Having detachable controllers also doesn't prevent you from just using this on your own, it just adds extra flexibility to the kind of experiences NX could provide to gamers that get one.



I still think there's something importante missing here.

Just having a simple dock doesn't seem like keeping the home console business - remember that Iwata didn't want and wasn't making a hybrid console.
So, what Eurogamer potentially revealed doesn't add up.

Not only that but there's still that piece of tech worth 100 million dollars Nintendo bought a few years and that, as far as i know, hasn't been shown.

Emily Rogers also spoke of a gimmick that could be expansive, and again, what has been revealed shows none of that - and shw knew about what was going to happen, regarding these articles.

Imagine a portable with controllers you can take out and then.... form a really weird shaped controller? That or a really weirdly shaped portable! It's one of the two and i doubt Nintendo would go with any of those two options.