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Kyros said:
To play advocatus diaboli. It could have something to do with the fact that the number of really good non-Party Wii games is not exactly astronomic. So the huge number of people who buy a Wii concentrate themselves on a few games. IMO the only explanation that a PS2 port like RE4 was doing so well.

 I don't know.  It's on gamerankings top 20 list of all time.  People are also buying games off the virtual console in droves.

I think what you'll find is, that to most people, a good game is simply a good game, no matter what generation it was released.

Sure the graphics and sound may be off a little, but the core gameplay doesn't change and that's all that matters. 



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Mummelmann said:
^True, but remember that countries like Korea, China and India are part of Others, so sales there allround are horrible compared to population. Just goes to show that China and India are not huge on videogames like many think they are (why do people think that anyways?).

 Those terriroties are also filled with priacy.   Hard to sell an $80 game when they can buy a pirated copy for $10.

 

Couple that with a lower level of income and the markets are not as comporable to the big 3.  If the piracy issue cna be addressed (highly doubtful), then they can become a sizable market. 



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Mummelmann said:
^True, but remember that countries like Korea, China and India are part of Others, so sales there allround are horrible compared to population. Just goes to show that China and India are not huge on videogames like many think they are (why do people think that anyways?).

Well with China I think it's because it's pretty much a new market. It's being opened up more and many many more chinese people are gaining a lot of upword mobility.

Also, people are talking about China being huge from a Hardware perspective. Not software.

PS2 tended to stay out of countries that couldn't afford legal games because Sony too the loss leading strategy from Sega. 



how'd this get on china?

Oh well, I think Nintendo can sell a couple million Wiis there lifetime(no more than 5-7) software attach ratios will be low(piracy), but that is ok since nintendo makes profit off each Wii.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Reading through this entire thread is making me hate the phrase ''legs'' so much. Just for no other reason than I'm sick of reading it and envisioning giant fleshy limbs sprouting out of video game boxes.



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Yeah if one game deserves these legs, it's zelda. Really fantastic legs, gives me hope it will be the best selling zelda after all!(with the GC version)



radioioRobert said:
akuma587 said:
Its hard to pin down the cause of this, cause it didn't even really happen that much with the PS2. Maybe Wii owners are less likely to buy used copies of their games.

Or maybe Wii owners aren't selling their games as quickly as PS360 users are (or at all). I believe this to be true, and it's because they are not in a rush to buy a new release on release week, they get them when they have time to play a new game or when they finished the last one. This is shown by consistant legs.

One reason Wii owners might hold onto games longer is because a good number of (though not all) Wii owners don't sit down for 5 hours and play, but pick up and play a game (Wii Sports/Wii Play/PES2008), a level (SMG/RE:UC), a battle(Brawl) and thus they wouldn't get a game and be done with it in 2 or 3 weeks. As for games like RE4 & LOZ:TP, well we know the wii has a good number of casual users. In my saying that, I'm not saying they don't like hardcore games. I think they are casual in they like to pick up and play a game for a short time, and continue it or play another one later. It would take this type of casual player much longer to complete these games, hence there would be less of them available used at any given time.

Add into this the supply constraint factor, and the fact that new Wii owners probably already have quite a few of the games on the list at the start of this thread on their short list, the legs just make sense. Every time a store gets Wii's, it seems like the purchaser purchaes a handful of games as well (ie: a Wii, Wii Play fora controller, and SMG).

And these legs will continue for a long time to come.  

 


While there's been many good observations here, I agree particularly with this one as that's my experience.  Not including games my son has bought for the Wii (he's harcore),  for all the games I bought for myself, I've yet to finish a single game.  Some (Tiger Woods) I'll never have time to finish the career mode, ever.  Other's I will eventually (I hope) but I'm a casual player and rarely play for long.  Because of that, some games (RE4) don't get played much because I don't have time to finish a level, and therefore remain unfinished.

Also, when I do finish I probably won't sell them, as I'll want to play them again at some point.  So yeah, while my son has traded in quite a few of his Wii games, I have not and probably won't (unless I dislike a game).  So fewer trade ins mean more new game sales IE: better legs.

Also Casual players generally don't follow the VG news, don't know what's coming out and only see new games whenever they go looking in the store for something new.  We definately see this as Wii titles generally have lower initial sales but better legs than PS360 counterparts.



 

Ok, here is a theory I had not come up with yet... Casuals don't buy at GS... therefore they buy new... Also very few Wii games are worth buying used... Why would I pay 44.99 for TP when I can get it new for 49.99



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

i think the games with the best legs are Nintendogs, NSMB, every Pokemon game, Mario Kart games, etc.

btw:For Wii, technically, the game with the best legs is Wii sports followed by Wii play. I'd like to see a game beat those legs. lol