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NightDragon83 on 16 July 2016
Chris Hu said:
The movie sucks but a lot of the reviewers gave it a higher score because they didn't want to be labeled as misogynist. One of the few people that had enough balls to actually give it a honest review is Angry Joe he gave it a 2/10.

Actually there were some major mainstream reviewers that hated it, one of them being Richard Roeper of the Chicago Sun-Times...

http://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/ghostbusters-reboot-a-horrifying-mess/

Reviews in Entertainment Weekly, LA Times and The Hollywood Reporter also panned the film.  It's just not that good.  Not awful, but pretty mediocre.  But it's hilarious watching people trying to defend it just because it features an all female (and Chris Hemsworth) lead cast.



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JWeinCom on 16 July 2016

If anyone wants to use user reviews as a definitive measure of quality, that's fine. However, you must also accept that...

Lego the Force Awakens is better than Uncharted 4.
Pang Adventures is better than Overwatch.
The definitive version of Skyrim is the XBox 360 version. But, it pales in comparison to Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven.
Scooby Doo! and the Spooky Swamp is better than Skyward Sword, Skyrim, Uncharted 4, Overwatch, Halo 5, Splatoon, and Bloodborne.



JWeinCom on 16 July 2016

Btw, I have never seen this movie, but it gets a perfect 10 in my book. Why? Because it led to the revival of Hi-C Ecto Cooler.



Kresnik on 16 July 2016

Just got back from seeing this. As someone who watched the cartoons when I was younger and have seen the first two Ghostbusters films but have no real emotional attachment to them, this was fine. Not mindblowing or laugh-a-minute, but enjoyable.

This tirade against it is one of the most interesting things I've seen in quite some time.



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Azuren on 16 July 2016
Psychotic said:
Azuren said:

1. So you just want to be "that guy". Enjoy.

 

2. Progressive from the time the original movies came out? Um, yes, yes it is. If it's something and old white Christian will disagree with, it's got a tinge progressive in it. 

 

3. Where are you even going with this? Did you even read any of this? 

 

4. Oh right, no. There's only a very vocal community of people hating the decision and asking why. But feel free to invalidate their existence as long as it furthers your own opinion. 

 

5. It's very simple psychology, dude.

 

And no, no it isn't. What you're describing it a misunderstanding, and it doesn't change the meaning of the message. Feel free to try again, though. 

1) I'm okay with being "that guy", whatever that means.

2) Now you are being "that guy". Here's a story. How do you make it more progressive? Apply shoe polish on some of the characters' faces. For what reason? I don't know, it's just "more progressive" that way.

3) You said there was "no reason" for the gender filp. There's a reason.

4) I don't invalidate their existence, I invalidate their relevance.

5) Yup, a very simple error in human psychology.

I do not need to try again. The point stands. It doesn't matter what you think about yourself, it's up to others to judge your actions.

1. It's a bad thing. 

 

2. That's regressive. Congratulations. 

 

3. Aside from being a gimmick, which I've already pointed out, no.

 

4. You're splitting hairs in a bait-y way. 

 

5. Nnnnnnnnope. Try harder.

 

Yes, you do need to try again. The fact that you don't even see how means you need to either stop and think of just stop. 



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Azuren on 16 July 2016
LurkerJ said:
Azuren said:

1. Not liking a counter argument doesn't invalidate it. Typically, it does so even more because the source of the dislike is an inability to properly counter it. 

1. I don't like it because it simplifies everyone's reasoning for being ok with a female lead into a simple "they are being progressive", "afraid of SJW reactions" etc. 

2. A single female lead isn't progressive. A single gay lead is, if we're being honest, progressive. An entire cast of female leads? That's either progressive, or a chick flik.

2. Gender/sexual orientation swapping isn't progressive in my opinion. I don't mind it, but that's not how you push for progress.

 3. I never argued the script. As i decided not to watch the movie, i cant argue the script. I'm arguing the creative choice of turning what was essentially a "boy franchise" into an all girl movie. 

3. And I am not saying the script is good, I've not seen the movie. I am saying if the script/the delivery is good then I will like the movie regardless of who is playing the lead.

4. Silent Hill had reason: a mother figure looking for her child works better than a father figure. That's a legitimate reason to change the gender of a character.

4. What? No, it's not a good reason at all. It didnt' work better. I didn't know why the director decided to go with a female lead, because I didn't mind it, but if that was his/her reasoning then wow, no wonder he/she got everything else wrong. 

5. I never said any reboot, nor did i say they aren't free to pick their audience. I'm pointing out why many are asking for justification on why the gender swap happened aside from just being a gimmick. I'm pointing out why people are displeased with the creative choice that was taken; because many people who like the originals found someone to identify with in those movies, but had that taken away with the reboot. 

5. That's fine, but to call them displeased is an understatement.

They are spreading hate all over the webs, labeling people who like the movie with SJWs and other stuff , saying the movie couldn't have possibily received negative reviews because the SJWs would've attacked those reviewers, or because it would have been poltically wrong to give it a negative score, giving the movie low ratings without actually seeing it, acting if the original theme song is a Radiohead masterpiece that can't be replicated when in reality it's more like a backstreet song covered by 1D-tier band, etc

It seems you're of the mindset I'm attacking the movie. I'm not, because I don't really care. Am I disappointed? Yeah, it could have had a character I felt I could identify with, and I might've generated some interest in the movie. Instead it's just a chick flik. But I'm not attacking the movie because I haven't seen it. I'm explaining why people don't like the gender swap. Please read my posts carefully to decipher what I'm trying to relay, because it's clear that you're simply on defense for a movie you like. 

I don't like the movie. I haven't seen it. I am not on defense mode, I am find what's happening comical. That's all.

The only reason the four leads are all women is to be inclusive (a progressive notion). It unfortunately only flips the tables, it doesn't even them out. 

 

I disagree. Lots of older established fictional characters are undergoing this strange retro-diversification in order to include more tips of people. That's a fairly progressive practice. 

 

Then why are you arguing for the script when I'm simply addressing why people don't like the gender swap?

 

That was exactly the reason why the director went with a female lead. Regardless of if you agree, he gave a reason aside from "because whoa! They're all girls now! What!?"

 

Yeah, it is. It'd be flame-y to call them anything more. However, I'm going to disagree about the song. I thought the new one was trash, while the old one was simple and great.

 

Eh. It's just male psyches feeling threatened and left out. Nothing women haven't dealt with for... Ever. That's why I'm just simply ignoring the movie. 



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Soundwave on 16 July 2016
Kresnik said:
Just got back from seeing this. As someone who watched the cartoons when I was younger and have seen the first two Ghostbusters films but have no real emotional attachment to them, this was fine. Not mindblowing or laugh-a-minute, but enjoyable.

This tirade against it is one of the most interesting things I've seen in quite some time.

Yeah, the people who have actually *seen* the damn movie realize it's OK. 

If this is 2/10, then sure as fuck 90% of the movies released the summer should be 1/10 or 0.5/10. There's no fucking way you can spin this as worse than Indepedence Day or as dull as Tarzan or worse than WarCraft or shitty as Alice Through the Looking Glass. 

The cast of the film is one of the strong points actually, the script is not that well done, that's where the main issues arise from. The new characters are all likable enough and work well together and it isn't a "girl power!" movie it's a "these three scientists are fascinated by the paranormal and another one joins the team" movie. It's quite respectful of the Ghostbusters mythos even though it is a reboot too, fans of the movies/TV shows will pick up on tons of nods to the original movie and even one big one from the cartoon series. 

The Cinema Score for the movie, which is people who have SEEN the movie and haven't gotten into the stupid pissing match of politics rated it A- for Under 25 year olds and B+ as a whole. There's no way this is a 2/10 movie across the board. 

It's a better and truer Ghostbusters film than any of the Star Wars prequels were to Star Wars. It's Ghostbusters II quality, if you could live with that, you should probably find enough to enjoy here. Like I said before the 3D is spectacular too, best use of 3D I've ever seen, the ghosts come right out of the screen. 



pokoko on 16 July 2016

I've gotten pretty tired of hearing about it both ways, to be honest.

If you don't like it, don't watch it. Simple as that. If you like it, good for you. Unless you work for Sony, your attachment should probably end with that.

Personally, I have no interest in watching it. Why? Because the trailers looked mediocre and I don't watch mediocre movies. I only watch a few movies a year and only if they seem to be special or interesting. I usually avoid "summer blockbusters" unless I get roped into it by someone else.

As for reviews, the first review I read was a social rant disguised as a review, so I have no intention of trusting aggregate scores from anywhere. User reviews, I never trust those to begin with.

Seriously, I liked the first Ghostbusters a lot when I first saw it but I was also a kid. I liked the sequels a lot less--I can't even remember them, actually. As an adult, I have no interest in the franchise and I'm kind of stunned that adults on both sides are fighting about it.



Trunkin on 16 July 2016
DonFerrari said:
Trunkin said:

Even though the movie looks like garbage to me, i have to say user eviews aren't at all trustworthy in this case. There was way too much hate floating around for this pre-release, and at least ha,f those reviewers probably didn't even watch the movie before giving it a 1.

the great mistery is where is the balance between people who gave 1 just because of hate and how many gave 10 for SJW reason... we know both have a very big number of people under, but who have more?

With this movie? The haters. Definitely the haters. Actually, I think SJW's are a small minority in the general public. 



hershel_layton on 16 July 2016
Soundwave said:
I saw it, it's far better than 2.3, that's just haters hating.

It's about as good as Ghosbusters II I would say. The third act of the film is the weak point but it's a solid film up until then.

It's better than many summer films this year, I'd put it over Ninja Turtles 2, ID4 2, Warcraft, and Tarzan pretty easily.

The 3D is quite impressive, it's worth seeing in a theater for that.

Haven't seen tarzan yet. Sad to see its worse than this reboot

 



 

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