Doomx2 Mr Eagle!

I don't wish to see people falling apart though it's always hard to maintain

A EU wide trade agreement is inevitable and necesary either way, and it wouldn't even take that long. Unless there was something that caused international relations to screw up, like a war or something, but that's a different hypothetical. I don't see a war happening internally in Europe. But the EU falling appart would certainly have impacts on the state of the economy at least on a short to mid-term scale.

Hello there from the Great state of Texas (soon to secede from the Feds). With the country of Germany footing a huge part of the EU's tax burden, there is no way they are staying in after watching the Brits leave. They will be next to leave.

Also hopefully this means there won't be a North American Union forced down the US's throat, since they couldn't make it work in Europe.

I can asure you that germany will be the last to leave the EU.

OK, assure me then and explain why the German people won't force a vote on leaving the EU.

- Making your own rules would be beneficial. Economically, you can put rules and regulations to suit your specific country instead of the current "one size fits all", that is very detrimental to Greece, Portugal, Finland and others.

- More expenses for tourists? I don't see how. The exchange rates are very small if you take your money out from a "money machine" (what's those called lol? ) And passports, in practice a lot of people use passports when they travel in Europe, especially after the migrant crisis.

- Nuclear plants and coal plants aren't regulated in the EU directly. But perhaps you mean indirectly due to the common goals of CO2 emission. I don't see it as a problem if individual nations decide what suits them best. We have international agreemennts such as the global summits (Kyoto protocol and stuff) that ensures co-opertation between nations.

- Control over your border is a big benefit. You can control the inflow of migrants to suit your country. Traficking of sex objects becomes harder when there's actual border controls. The likelyhood of getting caught increases if there's several border controls you have to pass.

- The co-operation between police forces in Europe would continue even if the EU would collapse. Nothing prevents nations from assisting each other.

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- "increase in racism", "risk of war", "friendship between states" that's so subjective. All of that could just as well become better when regulations, rules and immigrants aren't forced upon each nation. A united harmonic society will be friendly to his neigbor nations and other people.

- Another benefit is that we get rid of the undemocratic political elite and all the expensive beureucracy that costs billion of Euros a year.

- We get rid of the uneffective EU subsidies. The sum that countries pay the EU is compensated by the sum that countries get from the EU, it's just a distribution of money from rich to poor, and in theory I don't have a problem with that as long as it's reasonable. But the problem is the money that is redistributed back to member nations. Most of it is extremely uneffective in stimulating countries. The subsidies are often uneffective or even useless - for example subsidies to culture houses and operas, often money wasted. Subsidies to roads and other infrastructures - even the Greeks question the value of all the infrastructure they've built with EU money. Subsidies to farmers - this is infamous for it's counterproductive effects, it artficially keeps alive oldfashioned farming (Eastern Europe, Southern Europe, Ireland and Finland) and causes farmers to plant useless seeds only for the subsidies (this happens a lot in Sweden).

I think we need to fix the EU, not leaving it. It's now in a pitiful state, and I truly believe that together, we're stronger. But being Spanish as I am, I've got the feeling that they only need us to come here in holidays, because of our beaches and the lower prices XD. Our inclusion on the EU and the Euro didn't benefit us at all. We need a stronger EU, but not an EU when the healthiest countries are exploiting the poorer ones.

Simply because germany is the whole reason the EU exists in the first place.

Merkel won't leave it. She will do everything to keep them in.

The minority of people who scream for getting out are Neo-Nazi's. They are not enough, even if a EU referendum would be made, the majority would vote for remain.

AFD who is considered a right wing party which mainly goes against immigrants want to stay in the EU. SPD and CDU who most of the time run the goverment have no interest of leaving.

There are no big signs which lead to an exit of Germany. If Germany would leave, the EU will be gone.

Did somebody say economic crisis?

Because when you take an economic union with over 20% of the world's GDP and break it back into a couple dozen pieces, you are going to have financial troubles. Trade within Europe would be heavily altered and/or reduced, corporations are going to have trouble investing in smaller countries, some countries will be overwhelmed by debt, big structure like tunnels and bridges will have uncertain futures, and the European Space Agency will die a fast death.

As for possible benefits? Well, the greater degree of autonomy will be welcome by some. Certain countries will welcome the ability to close borders to immigrants, tax imports from countries they dislike, and so on. Protective policies may become more possible, creating more industrial capacity in some countries.

Also, a ton of Europeans live outside their native countries but within the EU. Something like 8% or so. That's going to be a logistic nightmare, one way or another.