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ctk495 on 26 March 2008
sc94597 said:
Read this, and some of his other articles. It makes very clear on what nintendo is trying to do with the wii. They start out on casual games then move up to more , and more hardcore games. This is what happend to the ds http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html .

That is a really good article that explains how is nintendo moving from the downmarket to the upmarket thank's for posting the link, so maybe other people can understand how nintendo is following the path of disruption.



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Million on 26 March 2008
d21lewis said:
Whoa, Whoa, WHOA!! Just calm down there buddy. Take it easy. It's not that big of a deal.

Now let's compare DS sales to the PS3. The PS3 is getting whupped!! I mean what the heck? Isn't the PS3 "supposed" to be more powerful? Why isn't it selling better........

 Demand dude , Demand.




Stever89 on 26 March 2008

Yeah I'm a semi-hardcore gamer, and I'll only have the Wii this gen. Well that and a PC. And I've never owned a console before in my life (though my brother did, which I only played for Madden mostly), so I'm not a fanboy of any company, though I do like Nintendo's approach.

As for attach rate, the 360 has been out longer. Being out longer, means more time for more users to buy more games. Also, lower userbases tend to have better attach rates (like the GC had a better attach rate as far as I can remember reading). The Wii's rapidly expanding userbase makes it hard for it's attach rate to go up.

I agree with your first, third, and last point. The Wii can do better than the PS2 (since the GC could do better than the PS2), but it can't do games that the PS3/360 can. Or at least, not on the same level, graphically or in AI, etc.

But you better hope that the Wii is doing more than just bringing in grandmas, because if the Wii is not competing with 360/PS3 (and like you say, not in the same market), then the video game market is heading for a crash, because my this time last generation, there were well over 30 million PS2s out there (2 years after it's launch) along with about 10 million GC/Xbox. Even with the Wii, we're just at that 40 million in roughly the same timespan (the exact amount of times are not identical, I'm in too much of a hurry to do a full out comparison), so without it, MARKET CRASH. So yes, they are competing.



totalwar23 on 26 March 2008

So basically, this thread is about a Sony fanboy annoyed by Nintendo fanboys. Would that count as irony?



HappySqurriel on 26 March 2008

Hmmm, the most appropriate response I can come up with is "Suck it up princess!" ...

There are just as many threads started by Sony fanboys comparing the Wii to the PS2, or looking at (typically third party) software sales between the systems and the recent calls about the systems being in "Different Markets" is just a way of PS3/XBox 360 fans giving up and yet not wanting to admit that the Wii has "won".

People compare the hardware of the Wii vs. the PS3/XBox 360 because they're optimistic about the Wii's potential; unlike the PS3 and XBox 360 there haven't been many games for the Wii where developers have pushed the hardware, or even needed to make the sacrifice of dropping to 30fps rather than 60fps. Certainly, these comparisons are not (necessarily) all that accurate but if someone can claim that the "PS2 can do everything the Wii can do" then saying the "Wii can do everything the PS3 can do" is fair because the difference between the PS2 and Wii is similar to the difference between the Wii and the PS3.



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SSurTails on 26 March 2008

lol..... they are in same market -_-;



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Million on 26 March 2008
totalwar23 said:
So basically, this thread is about a Sony fanboy annoyed by Nintendo fanboys. Would that count as irony?

I am by no means a Sony fanboy , I don't own any of the current Gen systems and most of my gaming is done on my PC. Look up the definition of Ironic.




Phoenix_Wiight on 26 March 2008

hey man, quite complaining. games are games. the wii can be better than other systems, just because its different. the fact that its different makes it amazing



kenzomatic on 26 March 2008

I love these threads.



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Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.

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Stever89 on 26 March 2008
Zucas said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Zucas said:
This topic is an epic fail. I reccomend all reading this to turn away before your eyes bleed. All I needed to read was Wii is not in the same market as PS3 and 360 to understand the failure.

Isn't that what Nintendo said though? That they're not competing on the same level as the others?

I know that was probably an excuse they could use if they failed, but still, hypocracy.


If they said that, it was most likely a marketing niche they were trying to create. Trying to point out to the casual market that the 360 and PS3 aren't going for their buys. If Nintendo has said that it was for some marketing ploy like that, which really has seemed to work well.

But factually they are competing in the same market. If they weren't then we'd see trends of PS3 and 360 similar to that of the PS2, Xbox, and GC generation before us.


I also believe that both Microsoft and Sony said that a Wii look really nice besides their 360/PS3. It was almost like everyone was getting a long. Until the Wii started selling more than the other two combined. Then it was like "oh they aren't in the same league." Or something like that.