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MontanaHatchet said:
Onimusha12 said:
The PS3 doesn't have the power to maintain even these sales unless it sees a $100 price drop every year. And the 360 is fast reaching its own market saturation. The Wii's limitation is production, the 360/PS3's limitation is appeal. Guess which has more promise?

Doubters and Skeptics alike, I'm sorry to inform you, the Wii will reach 50% market share.

If Nintendo produced 5 millions Wiis a week, would it sell 5 million Wiis a week?

No, the Wii's limitation is appeal, just like every other console ever made.


Montana... Seriously...

I hate to break it to you, but the Wii shows potential of being able to sell upwards of 500,000-1,000,000 units a week if not more given its current demand. 5,000,000 is just a ridiculous number to try and prove anything, though can assure that I would thoroughly laugh my ass my off should such a thing ever be proven possible.

The fact is Montana, the Wii has yet to reach the demand of the consumer, so it is arguable as to how many units it can sell a week, but what we do know is that its much more than it is now, and most likely, by a considerable amount. Sure you can say the Wii is limited by appeal, but if you have to use such a ridiculous number as 5,000,000 units to make that point, then what exactly are you proving? Not to be insultive, but a person would have to either be particularaly dense or surprisingly naive to think such an argument could hold water when the specific intent was more than crystal clear given the proximity of context. Did it not occur to you that perhaps I was speaking specifically abou the fat that the 360 and PS3 are readily available while the Wii has untapped potential lying solely in how many can be pushed out every week.

I can't say what motives lie behind your questionable interpretation of my earlier statement, though if arguing semantics and hyper literalism is your definition of mature and educated discussion then you'll forgive me if I don't concede to your standard of debate.

kingofwale said:
down to 44.1% as of today. Not the direction Wii fans want to see.

Yep, its over for Nintendo. Forgive me while I avert my eyes.



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The Wii will get to 50% hands down by the end of the year.



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Joeykanga said:
The Wii will get to 50% hands down by the end of the year.

 

 

How much you willing to bet on that ?

Because it's surely not the direction the numbers are telling us it is going...........

You guys should put a circle on your calendar for that 44.5% because the Wii won't be back to that number before sometime at the end of May at the earliest..



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Onimusha12 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Onimusha12 said:
The PS3 doesn't have the power to maintain even these sales unless it sees a $100 price drop every year. And the 360 is fast reaching its own market saturation. The Wii's limitation is production, the 360/PS3's limitation is appeal. Guess which has more promise?

Doubters and Skeptics alike, I'm sorry to inform you, the Wii will reach 50% market share.

If Nintendo produced 5 millions Wiis a week, would it sell 5 million Wiis a week?

No, the Wii's limitation is appeal, just like every other console ever made.


Montana... Seriously...

I hate to break it to you, but the Wii shows potential of being able to sell upwards of 500,000-1,000,000 units a week if not more given its current demand. 5,000,000 is just a ridiculous number to try and prove anything, though can assure that I would thoroughly laugh my ass my off should such a thing ever be proven possible.

The fact is Montana, the Wii has yet to reach the demand of the consumer, so it is arguable as to how many units it can sell a week, but what we do know is that its much more than it is now, and most likely, by a considerable amount. Sure you can say the Wii is limited by appeal, but if you have to use such a ridiculous number as 5,000,000 units to make that point, then what exactly are you proving? Not to be insultive, but a person would have to either be particularaly dense or surprisingly naive to think such an argument could hold water when the specific intent was more than crystal clear given the proximity of context. Did it not occur to you that perhaps I was speaking specifically abou the fat that the 360 and PS3 are readily available while the Wii has untapped potential lying solely in how many can be pushed out every week.

I can't say what motives lie behind your questionable interpretation of my earlier statement, though if arguing semantics and hyper literalism is your definition of mature and educated discussion then you'll forgive me if I don't concede to your standard of debate.

kingofwale said:
down to 44.1% as of today. Not the direction Wii fans want to see.

Yep, its over for Nintendo. Forgive me while I avert my eyes.

Gee, a simple statement gets that many blows?

I made my number high on purpose, which is that by your statement any number is possible.

And while it's true that the 360 and PS3 aren't sold out, is the Wii really sold out either? Sold out where, everywhere? I'm sure you can find Wii on store shelves in places like Spain or Italy.

I wasn't attacking your statement, I was just saying that you have to list the exceptions. 

 



 

 

Ail said:
Joeykanga said:
The Wii will get to 50% hands down by the end of the year.

 

 

How much you willing to bet on that ?

Because it's surely not the direction the numbers are telling us it is going...........

You guys should put a circle on your calendar for that 44.5% because the Wii won't be back to that number before sometime at the end of May at the earliest..


Take a good look at this graph. See how the Wii's line just bounces up and down again and again? While the 360/PS3 stay pretty linear. Four times out of 12 it passed the 50% mark. If supply was there week in and week out, it would would be moving in the right direction. During the summer months, when the PS3/360 don't have many new releases, the Wii will catch up a lot of the lost percentages. I don't think it has the ability to hit 50% this year though, unless Nintendo actually increases production. In that case, it depends on how much they increase production.

@montana: how much do you think the Wii could sell a week in NA then, since NA is about the only place with massive sellouts. Could it do 250k a week? 200k a week? 200k in NA alone about equals the other two WW individually. Obviously the Wii couldn't do 1 million a week for long, and at 5 million it would sell to every American in about 60 weeks I believe.So the question really is, how many can it sell a week? And that's the question Nintendo is trying to answer I would believe.

Edit: Forgot graph link. 



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Stever89 said:
Ail said:
Joeykanga said:
The Wii will get to 50% hands down by the end of the year.

 

 

How much you willing to bet on that ?

Because it's surely not the direction the numbers are telling us it is going...........

You guys should put a circle on your calendar for that 44.5% because the Wii won't be back to that number before sometime at the end of May at the earliest..


Take a good look at this graph. See how the Wii's line just bounces up and down again and again? While the 360/PS3 stay pretty linear. Four times out of 12 it passed the 50% mark. If supply was there week in and week out, it would would be moving in the right direction. During the summer months, when the PS3/360 don't have many new releases, the Wii will catch up a lot of the lost percentages. I don't think it has the ability to hit 50% this year though, unless Nintendo actually increases production. In that case, it depends on how much they increase production.

@montana: how much do you think the Wii could sell a week in NA then, since NA is about the only place with massive sellouts. Could it do 250k a week? 200k a week? 200k in NA alone about equals the other two WW individually. Obviously the Wii couldn't do 1 million a week for long, and at 5 million it would sell to every American in about 60 weeks I believe.So the question really is, how many can it sell a week? And that's the question Nintendo is trying to answer I would believe.

Edit: Forgot graph link.


Depends on the time of year. I could see perhaps 1.5 million during the height of Christmas season, and if Nintendo had all their stock but it was a lull period, perhaps 200k.



 

 

Stever89 said:
Ail said:
Joeykanga said:
The Wii will get to 50% hands down by the end of the year.

 

 

How much you willing to bet on that ?

Because it's surely not the direction the numbers are telling us it is going...........

You guys should put a circle on your calendar for that 44.5% because the Wii won't be back to that number before sometime at the end of May at the earliest..


Take a good look at this graph. See how the Wii's line just bounces up and down again and again? While the 360/PS3 stay pretty linear. Four times out of 12 it passed the 50% mark. If supply was there week in and week out, it would would be moving in the right direction. During the summer months, when the PS3/360 don't have many new releases, the Wii will catch up a lot of the lost percentages. I don't think it has the ability to hit 50% this year though, unless Nintendo actually increases production. In that case, it depends on how much they increase production.

@montana: how much do you think the Wii could sell a week in NA then, since NA is about the only place with massive sellouts. Could it do 250k a week? 200k a week? 200k in NA alone about equals the other two WW individually. Obviously the Wii couldn't do 1 million a week for long, and at 5 million it would sell to every American in about 60 weeks I believe.So the question really is, how many can it sell a week? And that's the question Nintendo is trying to answer I would believe.

Edit: Forgot graph link. 


To reach 50% marketshare by the end of the year the Wii would need to consistently week over week get over 55% of each week marketshare for the rest of the year...

 This has never happened this year, the highest marketshare Wii had a single week was on 2/10/08 with 54.3% marketshare.

 In the latest pick in that chart the Wii didn't even have 50% marketshare...

 

Lets say the PS3 keep selling at an average of 175k/week and the Xbox360 at 140k/week for the rest of the year.

The Wii would need to sell 500k units/week for the next 35 weeks to reach 50% marketshare.  That is what the maths tell you which is what makes most of the posts in this thread saying the Wii will be at 50% marketshare before the end of year so funny and clueless...

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Onimusha12 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Onimusha12 said:
The PS3 doesn't have the power to maintain even these sales unless it sees a $100 price drop every year. And the 360 is fast reaching its own market saturation. The Wii's limitation is production, the 360/PS3's limitation is appeal. Guess which has more promise?

Doubters and Skeptics alike, I'm sorry to inform you, the Wii will reach 50% market share.

If Nintendo produced 5 millions Wiis a week, would it sell 5 million Wiis a week?

No, the Wii's limitation is appeal, just like every other console ever made.


Montana... Seriously...

I hate to break it to you, but the Wii shows potential of being able to sell upwards of 500,000-1,000,000 units a week if not more given its current demand. 5,000,000 is just a ridiculous number to try and prove anything, though can assure that I would thoroughly laugh my ass my off should such a thing ever be proven possible.

The fact is Montana, the Wii has yet to reach the demand of the consumer, so it is arguable as to how many units it can sell a week, but what we do know is that its much more than it is now, and most likely, by a considerable amount. Sure you can say the Wii is limited by appeal, but if you have to use such a ridiculous number as 5,000,000 units to make that point, then what exactly are you proving? Not to be insultive, but a person would have to either be particularaly dense or surprisingly naive to think such an argument could hold water when the specific intent was more than crystal clear given the proximity of context. Did it not occur to you that perhaps I was speaking specifically abou the fat that the 360 and PS3 are readily available while the Wii has untapped potential lying solely in how many can be pushed out every week.

I can't say what motives lie behind your questionable interpretation of my earlier statement, though if arguing semantics and hyper literalism is your definition of mature and educated discussion then you'll forgive me if I don't concede to your standard of debate.

kingofwale said:
down to 44.1% as of today. Not the direction Wii fans want to see.

Yep, its over for Nintendo. Forgive me while I avert my eyes.


Where exactly you get 500k to 1 mill units/week.

Japan is steadily selling 50k a week and I don't see what could increase the sales there ( Wii Fit and SSBX are out).

Europe shows signs that the most the Wii will sell is 150k a week.

Gonna be hard to sell 300k to 800k a week in the US to make up for that..........

You Wii owners are going to have to start buying a new console every other week or it will never get there :P



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:

To reach 50% marketshare by the end of the year the Wii would need to consistently week over week get over 55% of each week marketshare for the rest of the year...

This has never happened this year, the highest marketshare Wii had a single week was on 2/10/08 with 54.3% marketshare.

In the latest pick in that chart the Wii didn't even have 50% marketshare...

 

Lets say the PS3 keep selling at an average of 175k/week and the Xbox360 at 140k/week for the rest of the year.

The Wii would need to sell 500k units/week for the next 35 weeks to reach 50% marketshare. That is what the maths tell you which is what makes most of the posts in this thread saying the Wii will be at 50% marketshare before the end of year so funny and clueless...

 

 


Yeah that's why I said that it was unlikely that it would be able to do so. I think it'll get close. So far, this year, it's managed a 46% marketshare, so I think it's likely it'll get close to 47% or so, and then probably early next year it'll hit 50%.

@montana: yeah I think 200k a week during normal weeks would be about right, which is about double what it's averaging right about now.

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Stever89 said:
Ail said:

To reach 50% marketshare by the end of the year the Wii would need to consistently week over week get over 55% of each week marketshare for the rest of the year...

This has never happened this year, the highest marketshare Wii had a single week was on 2/10/08 with 54.3% marketshare.

In the latest pick in that chart the Wii didn't even have 50% marketshare...

 

Lets say the PS3 keep selling at an average of 175k/week and the Xbox360 at 140k/week for the rest of the year.

The Wii would need to sell 500k units/week for the next 35 weeks to reach 50% marketshare. That is what the maths tell you which is what makes most of the posts in this thread saying the Wii will be at 50% marketshare before the end of year so funny and clueless...

 

 


Yeah that's why I said that it was unlikely that it would be able to do so. I think it'll get close. So far, this year, it's managed a 46% marketshare, so I think it's likely it'll get close to 47% or so, and then probably early next year it'll hit 50%.

@montana: yeah I think 200k a week during normal weeks would be about right, which is about double what it's averaging right about now.

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One think you don't take into account is the fact that selling 46% marketshare this year is different from reaching 46% marketshare LTD because you have to take into account all the consoles already sold.....

The longer Wii stays around 44-44.5% overall marketshare ( which selling 46% this year would do) the harder it will be to reach lifetime 50%..........

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !