Doesn't the fact that Overwatch was ahead on PSN alone show that Overwatch had a substantially higher digital ratio?

Oh I see. I kinda thought it was including bundles, but I wasn't aware that we'd gotten numbers for UC3 including bundles, so I was confused.

The best selling Uncharted game did in 20 days almost the same the worst selling Halo game did in a week, considering also the 2x instal base. Halo 5 it's considered a flop, Uncharted 4 a success. Now hate on me I don't care, but watching the same people who say the halo franchise died, saying that Uncharted 4 is a great success (I think both are) is ridiculous.

Agreed. It's not the sales of the Uncharted 4 game that disappoints me. Over 1 mill including bundles and digital in US only is above my expectations.

But I expected a bigger hardware boost as well compared to eg. Destiny boost (~550,000 in September, 2014).

I guess many Uncharted fans had already bought a PS4. Additionally, I still think all the talk about PS4.5/PS4K/PS4 Neo dampens PS4 sales a bit. Many of my friends that don't follow gaming closely know about the upgrade and are recommending everyone to postpone buying a PS4.

Only if we can have digital sales tracking. I'm beginning to feel digital sales are now a lot more than what we all expect, especially with things like preloading in effect. All 6 of my friends and I got the game digitally (we actually get all our games digitally cause we are based in the carribeans).

Just think of it, it sold 2.7M first week, did 800k for the month in NA, even if it does 1.2M eveeywhere else thats still around 500k-700k digital sales. Thats aroumd 30%!!!!

Lol. Globally in the US?

It's more like 1.15x the installbase. And obviously there are different standards for what is a flop and what is not for different franchises. GTA VI would be a flop if it sold 20 million worldwide, because it would be down massively over GTAV, but Dark Souls 4 would be a smashing out of this world success if it sold the same, because it would be gangbusters compared to DS3.  Similarly, Halo 5 selling much much less than its predecessors means that it's considered a dissapointment, not because the numbers are "low", but because it's down so much over the last games and are no where near what the series used to sell. While Uncharted 4, which I honestly think underperformed a bit, is up notably compared to previous games.

Prima parli dei numeri in USA, e poi parli della doppia base sitallata GLOBALMENTE? Scusa, o parli di uno o di un'altro.

Sì, Halo è ancora più grande di Uncharted in USA, penso che questo sia indubbiamente vero.

Ma te devi considerare che Uncharted 4 nel resto del mondo vende cifre nettamente superiori di Halo 5.

Poi, io onestamente non sono uno di quelli che dice che Halo è morto ecc, però non ci sono dubbi nel dire che, rispetto ad un tempo, non è più l'esclusiva inarrivabile che era un tempo se non da un gioco Nintendo.

Uncharted, invece, ha avuto un'enorme aumento se paragonato agli altri giochi di Uncharted.

Il punto è questo:

Se si parla di vendite nel complesso, sì, entrambi sono dei grandi successi.

Se però si parla di "in confronto agli altri halo" o "in confronto agli altri Uncharted", Uncharted può dire di essere anche in questo caso un successo, Halo... bhe, non proprio.

In conclusione... credo che Halo 5 sommando il tutto sia un discreto successo, ma Uncharted lo è stato di più.

Yeah, selling to an install base of 40M vs 80M can do that........ but we can pretend that wasnt the case.

I'm more interested to see how it will do lifetime. If it will hit 10M. 

Halo is also more heavily USA-skewed, whereas Uncharted tends to be a more International franchise.

Halo should be stronger for the USA given that it's the primary sales territory----that's why people were hating on it. Uncharted is highly diversified.

Think about it this way for Overwatch:

Overwatch sold 50-100K PC retail sales. That's HUGE for PC retail nowadays.

Since PC retail is such a small fraction of the overall PC market (less than 10%), you can project that for a title to achieve a whopping 50-100K at PC retail, it must have HUGE digital sales (at least >700K on PC digital in the USA).

30% sounds about right for Uncharted 4 digital share. So when you include digital Uncharted 4 is approx. 1.17 million for May USA sales.

Remember, digital keeps slowly creeping upwards. In 2014 digital downloads were 15-20% of total sales. In 2015 it was 20-25%. Now in 2016 it's 25-30%.