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While drunk, she might not have a proper judgement. So it could be rape to an extent.



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There isn't enough information in those scenarios to say really. How drunk are the people?

If she is really drunk and your sober? Yeah, that's rape. If she's just tipsy, than she would still have here wits about her and can make her own decisions.

If you're both a little tipsy, then the same applies as if just she's tipsy. Neither of your are too drunk to give consent to it's fine.

Now, it gets complicated if you're both really drunk. Technically, under the strictest terms of the law, it's rape. BUT either party could claim that they were raped because they were both too drunk to give consent.

It's an interesting question though.



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Toxy said:
Qwark said:

No it isn´t if you consider that rape than 90% of the people who has ever had a one night stand is a rapist. If the girl or the guy regrets it afterwards it´s a form of selfmutilation, which isn´t a crime besides the person agreed with it at that time. As others said if you can´t make reasonable decisions while you are drunk, than don´t get drunk. You can´t expect society to act responsible if you yourself aren´t able to do that because you are to freaking drunk to think logical.

Another post that makes it clear that this website should stick to gaming news. Just because you may not be able to act at your full mental capacity, does not mean you should be taken advantage of. Rape is rape, regardless of whether you are intoxicated or not.

Instead of blaming the victims, maybe you should consider that maybe the rapists should not rape people? It is the same when people slut shame. She wore revealing clothes so she was asking for it. Most of the time when someone has been raped, they have dressed moderately. Most rape victims are raped by someone that they know. 

The ignorance on this site is fucking astounding.

This is why you don't see many female users on this site. If there is a topic someone does not comprehend, they should not spout their opinion as fact. I don't try to enforce my opinion as fact on doctors, because it is a topic I do not have enough knowledge to discuss and criticise (among other topics such as advanced physics).

If you get drunk, and some dude rapes you, who is at fault? Seriously, humour me.

 

"Another post that makes it clear that this website should stick to gaming news. Just because you may not be able to act at your full mental capacity, does not mean you should be taken advantage of."

 

and he didn't imply that... so perhaps you shouldn't try to put words in his mouth


the point is that there are people all over the place who when given the chance will harm other people... therefore, anyone who wants to be safe must take precautions

its really very simple 

 

"Instead of blaming the victims"

 

only an ignorant person could somehow pull that out of what he posted

 

"If you get drunk, and some dude rapes you, who is at fault?"

 

or... or perhaps a better way to look at such situations is to determine a way to stop people from being victimised to begin with?

now we can act on the two sides in this - the rapist  and the victim

 

how do we stop psychopaths from raping though? do you have special goggles you can use to scan people and deterrmine their intent?

what was that? you don't? so what do we have to do?

 

well obviously we have to work from the side of the potential victim... so what can potential victims do to stop themselves from being victimised?

 

the fact that you call others ignorant when you lack a proper understanding of the solutions for this situation or even the situation itself is really quite amusing



uhm obviously it depends on how drunk you are

if you've hd some drinks and are just acting ridiculous or silly but are somwhat coherent and jump into bed with someone then who cares. if you're talking about someone jumping the bones of another who is practically passed out- then that probably could be considered rape

of course I would argue it depends upon the relationship of the two people as well. if its a total stranger who's insanely drunk and you jump on top of them then you're being pretty stupid and are potentially forcing them into something  because it's not as if a tots drunk person generally can express themselves that well



This idea that women have no agency in these situations and therefore all responsibility must fall on men is getting pretty prominent now

the thing i truly find amusing is that a lot of the men pushing this agenda don't seem to realise that they are going to fall victim to unwarranted abuse as this idea becomes more and more prominent and more and more measures are put in place to strip responsibility away from women

anytime someone brings this up programmed drones who obviously have not sat down to think about this for a bit jump out and yell "victim blaming!" "victim blaming!" without realising ironically that stripping all responsibility women have for these situations away from them is pretty damn oppressive and disempowering

you are basically telling women that they are passive objects who have no say in their destinies... it is all up to men to determine what happens in these situations... they have no say



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hershel_layton said:
vivster said:

I wouldn't mind because I'm not so stupid to get that kind of drunk in the first place. My sister isn't that stupid either and if I ever had a daughter she wouldn't be this stupid either. Yeah, we're a clever family.

Seriously whoever gets this drunk on purpose deserves what's coming because apparently that person does not care about consequences.

It's not nice taking advantage of people but no insurance in the world would pay you if you invited the robbers into your home on purpose.

Thank you.

 

 

It isn't victim blaming when people state the obvious. Don't get super drunk and risks of being raped decrease. 

Don't wear revealing clothing and decrease the chances of being raped. It's super obvious!



bigtakilla said:
hershel_layton said:

Thank you.

 

 

It isn't victim blaming when people state the obvious. Don't get super drunk and risks of being raped decrease. 

Don't wear revealing clothing and decrease the chances of being raped. It's super obvious!

Why should I have to lock my car door or house? people should stop robbing me! Don't blame victims ever!



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Ganoncrotch said:
bigtakilla said:

Don't wear revealing clothing and decrease the chances of being raped. It's super obvious!

Why should I have to lock my car door or house? people should stop robbing me! Don't blame victims ever!

Exactly. Just because someone is super drunk doesn't mean anything. It's an excuse for predators.



It depends if the other person remember it and enjoy it, if not, then it's rape



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Why should I have to lock my car door or house? people should stop robbing me! Don't blame victims ever!

Damn i love the examples people give on this site, its amazing.

I don't talk for all of VGchartz, as much as I would like to be, I don't talk for everyone on here. Still though if you have something to say about this post rather than VGchartz posters as a whole would love to hear it, I'm sure at some stage when someone is going out for a walk late at night you've uttered the comment "mind yourself" without having them return to attack you for victim blaming if something happens.



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