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hershel_layton said:

I realize the gorilla is an unfortunate mistake. Know what's irritating? The mother.

 

Listen, my mother let me run around like a maniac many times. However, if you manage to let your child to reach a gorilla pit, then you know something's wrong. i've done babysitting for long periods of time. I'm not dumb enough to let a kid get away for that long.

 

I also hate her post-incident update. "uhh, thank Jesus, hardeeheheheh". Stfu. Thank the people who saved your son as well.

"Mommy, can I take a look at those animals over there?"

"Yes, Timmy, but be careful and be back in a minute!"

"Don't worry, mom, I'm a big boy now!" Walks over, mother looks away for ten seconds... "Wow, look at that gorilla over there!" Falls.

 

And yeah, the Lordy Lordy sh*t is ridiculous, but hey, let Christians keep christianing in peace...



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AmericanAli said:
All of a sudden everyone is a animal activist but i can assure you that everyone of these people would think/act diffrently if that would be their 4 year old child down there. What a hypocritical society.

Exactly.  No one knows the whole story, but are quick to call this woman a bimbo and accuse her of child neglect.  I don't know, I thought we believed in innocent until proven guilty, especially when we only know bits of the story.  Really, there shouldn't have been any way for the child to get under or through the rails of the pit.  A lot of blame needs to be put on the zoo for not completely securing that. 

And sorry, but given the situation as it happened, the zoo did do the right thing.  Unfortunately, we live in an age where an animal's life has more value than a human's to some.  People making excuses like the ape was only playing or agitated by the people talking can just shut it.  Those animals don't know their own strength, nor do they know the ability of another creature to hold up against that strength.  The boy could have easily drowned from being pulled in the water like that.  So, yea, it sucks that an animal had to die, but given that it was to save a human's life, I feel less upset.



Psychotic said:
So... let me get this straight:

1) A bunch of teenagers who have never had a child or any major responsibility in their lives condemn a mother for not holding her child's hand every second of every day.

2) People who eat in KFC twice a week and had hundreds of fluffy animals killed in their name are going apesh*t (no pun intended) over an animal getting killed when an actual human life is in danger.

3) People who have absolutely no idea how gorillas behave, how tranquilizers work or how to properly act in a crisis berate people who have successfully saved a child's life and tell them how to do their job.

I feel for those ZOO workers who get spit on by ignorant masses of internet warriors who don't know anything about anything and still feel they have something to add to the conversation.

1.  Way to generalize... and exaggerate.

2.  Few are arguing against human life being paramount.  It's the human negligence that we have a problem with that needlessly resulted in an ENDANGERED SPECIES being killed.

3.  Now this I can somewhat agree with, but again, the situation would have never reached that point if it wasn't for human negligence.



Things happen, it was a unfortunate accident, and i don't blame the women.

What irks me though, is her response. There is a lot of talk about her and her son, and god, but not a single word of regret about that they had to shoot the gorilla.

Your awesome god had to kill a innocent gorilla to save your son lady.



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- George Orwell, ‘1984’

People here need to rise above the insults and attacks. Kids can get away in an instant. I actually have one a speak from experience. The encolsure shouldve never had a way for a child to get into it in the first place. Could the mom have watched the kid aswell sure but im not there and have no idea what was going on when this happened. It sucks but didnt appear to be any other outcome. The gorilla was being aggresive and dragging the kid around. Shitty situation all around.



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thismeintiel said:
AmericanAli said:
All of a sudden everyone is a animal activist but i can assure you that everyone of these people would think/act diffrently if that would be their 4 year old child down there. What a hypocritical society.

Exactly.  No one knows the whole story, but are quick to call this woman a bimbo and accuse her of child neglect.  I don't know, I thought we believed in innocent until proven guilty, especially when we only know bits of the story.  Really, there shouldn't have been any way for the child to get under or through the rails of the pit.  A lot of blame needs to be put on the zoo for not completely securing that. 

And sorry, but given the situation as it happened, the zoo did do the right thing.  Unfortunately, we live in an age where an animal's life has more value than a human's to some.  People making excuses like the ape was only playing or agitated by the people talking can just shut it.  Those animals don't know their own strength, nor do they know the ability of another creature to hold up against that strength.  The boy could have easily drowned from being pulled in the water like that.  So, yea, it sucks that an animal had to die, but given that it was to save a human's life, I feel less upset.

Listen. Don't listen to those nutwings. i just posted this because it was an interesting story.

Perhaps what's disappointing is that our lack of responsibility has lead to an animal being dead. Simple. Of course, it'd be great if people talked about thousands of people dying every die in worse condition( cough cough gaza, china, somalia, sudan, etc cough). Modern zoos are heaven compared to many places on earth. But no, I guess people just want to follow the trends. Reminds me of when I was in protests during the 54 day war in Gaza. I saw thousands of people, but know what they did? Stuck to their phones, snapchatted, tweeted, etc etc to make them look like heroes. Once the trend dies, I was happy to see 100-200 people at any protests for human rights(whether if it's the middle east or anywhere else in the world). 

 

Oh well. I probably am more outraged over the lack of responsibility parents nowadays have for their children. Look at how us millenials turned out...we're the opposite of ok. We're the opposite of what's needed to help the earth. We're lazy, sensitive, pathetic, idiotic, hypocritical, biased, and judgemental. We claim we're against all that but do the same towards others we disagree with. Simply put, humans are doomed if millenials are the last hope for humankind.

 

 

 

funny how this is stirring outrage everywhere though. I remember when a kid I knew was kidnapped and burned alive two summers ago. never saw anyone talk about it in social media- never saw anyone express how moral and perfect they are. never saw anyone being fucking activists.

Where was the outrage for him? At least for the gorilla, we didn't know what would happen.

 

Where the fuck was the outrage for the autistic 6 year old shot by police? Why weren't people whining about the rights for all organisms?

 

Where's the outrage over companies treating their animals horribly? The zoo gave the gorilla everything it needed. I don't see people saying, "these chickens need to be freed from factories!"

The people saying this is a fight for equal rights or shit are hypocritical. If they actually cared, we would have focused on issues far more important than one gorilla. While unfortunate, do you think the zoo would truly think, "hey, let's kill a rare gorilla for fun"?

 

I suppose it's great to know a lion and gorilla can cause an outrage from people, but modern day genocide and violent attacks on innocent humans(and animals) are ignored by the masses. Hilarious. A joke. Just shows how ignorant we truly are. Government officials probably laugh their asses off everyday seeing the kind of shit we gobble up.

 



 

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JamaicameCRAZY said:
People here need to rise above the insults and attacks. Kids can get away in an instant. I actually have one a speak from experience. The encolsure shouldve never had a way for a child to get into it in the first place. Could the mom have watched the kid aswell sure but im not there and have no idea what was going on when this happened. It sucks but didnt appear to be any other outcome. The gorilla was being aggresive and dragging the kid around. Shitty situation all around.

kids can get away, I shouldn't deny that(helping my family with them assures me I know what I'm talking about)

 

However, the arrogance and pure ego of this woman pisses me off. Did you see her saying, "lol thank jeezus, fuck that gorilla, no regrets" of course she didn't say it like that

 

How could you not feel bad for the gorilla at all? Is she so insensitive to the point where she wouldn't care who or how many died just for the safety of her son? 

And for her to constantly not shut up about god, the woman should be glad that god didn't plan for the gorilla to go bonkers and crush the child.



 

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FIT_Gamer said:

REDZONE said:

So you're telling me the kid should of died or let the the animal do what it wants?We are the superior species and yes we decide the future of everything on the planet,that is how it is.A kid was in danger and a decision  sad but right one was made.

Mother nature would say otherwise. We have superior egos. If humans went extinct, it would benefit the Earth more than any other species on the planet.

As I said before,name another species that can decide the fate of all.I am not saying it to be arrogant,I'm saying the kid's life is more important than any Gorilla.



hershel_layton said:
JamaicameCRAZY said:
People here need to rise above the insults and attacks. Kids can get away in an instant. I actually have one a speak from experience. The encolsure shouldve never had a way for a child to get into it in the first place. Could the mom have watched the kid aswell sure but im not there and have no idea what was going on when this happened. It sucks but didnt appear to be any other outcome. The gorilla was being aggresive and dragging the kid around. Shitty situation all around.

kids can get away, I shouldn't deny that(helping my family with them assures me I know what I'm talking about)

 

However, the arrogance and pure ego of this woman pisses me off. Did you see her saying, "lol thank jeezus, fuck that gorilla, no regrets" of course she didn't say it like that

 

How could you not feel bad for the gorilla at all? Is she so insensitive to the point where she wouldn't care who or how many died just for the safety of her son? 

And for her to constantly not shut up about god, the woman should be glad that god didn't plan for the gorilla to go bonkers and crush the child.

Well she almost lost her child to the gorilla. I dont expect anyone to feel for an animal that would do that. I was attacked by a dog when i was young i wasnt saying (nor my family) poor dog. I was mad at the dog i wanted it dead. Its natural to villify something that trys to do harm to your child. And i still say the terrible things people are saying about the mom are really uncalled for. To me the real fault is an enclosure that is open enough to let a child get through.



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hershel_layton said:
thismeintiel said:

Exactly.  No one knows the whole story, but are quick to call this woman a bimbo and accuse her of child neglect.  I don't know, I thought we believed in innocent until proven guilty, especially when we only know bits of the story.  Really, there shouldn't have been any way for the child to get under or through the rails of the pit.  A lot of blame needs to be put on the zoo for not completely securing that. 

And sorry, but given the situation as it happened, the zoo did do the right thing.  Unfortunately, we live in an age where an animal's life has more value than a human's to some.  People making excuses like the ape was only playing or agitated by the people talking can just shut it.  Those animals don't know their own strength, nor do they know the ability of another creature to hold up against that strength.  The boy could have easily drowned from being pulled in the water like that.  So, yea, it sucks that an animal had to die, but given that it was to save a human's life, I feel less upset.

Listen. Don't listen to those nutwings. i just posted this because it was an interesting story.

Perhaps what's disappointing is that our lack of responsibility has lead to an animal being dead. Simple. Of course, it'd be great if people talked about thousands of people dying every die in worse condition( cough cough gaza, china, somalia, sudan, etc cough). Modern zoos are heaven compared to many places on earth. But no, I guess people just want to follow the trends. Reminds me of when I was in protests during the 54 day war in Gaza. I saw thousands of people, but know what they did? Stuck to their phones, snapchatted, tweeted, etc etc to make them look like heroes. Once the trend dies, I was happy to see 100-200 people at any protests for human rights(whether if it's the middle east or anywhere else in the world). 

 

Oh well. I probably am more outraged over the lack of responsibility parents nowadays have for their children. Look at how us millenials turned out...we're the opposite of ok. We're the opposite of what's needed to help the earth. We're lazy, sensitive, pathetic, idiotic, hypocritical, biased, and judgemental. We claim we're against all that but do the same towards others we disagree with. Simply put, humans are doomed if millenials are the last hope for humankind.

 

 

 

funny how this is stirring outrage everywhere though. I remember when a kid I knew was kidnapped and burned alive two summers ago. never saw anyone talk about it in social media- never saw anyone express how moral and perfect they are. never saw anyone being fucking activists.

Where was the outrage for him? At least for the gorilla, we didn't know what would happen.

 

Where the fuck was the outrage for the autistic 6 year old shot by police? Why weren't people whining about the rights for all organisms?

 

Where's the outrage over companies treating their animals horribly? The zoo gave the gorilla everything it needed. I don't see people saying, "these chickens need to be freed from factories!"

The people saying this is a fight for equal rights or shit are hypocritical. If they actually cared, we would have focused on issues far more important than one gorilla. While unfortunate, do you think the zoo would truly think, "hey, let's kill a rare gorilla for fun"?

 

I suppose it's great to know a lion and gorilla can cause an outrage from people, but modern day genocide and violent attacks on innocent humans(and animals) are ignored by the masses. Hilarious. A joke. Just shows how ignorant we truly are. Government officials probably laugh their asses off everyday seeing the kind of shit we gobble up.

 

Very very well said sir! Those are my exact same thoughts! And it just makes me sick!