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As a PC gamer. Uncharted 4 as one whole package...

has exceeded all games before it. 513 49.00%
 
I've seen better. 239 22.83%
 
Roughly the same as games I've played on PC. 93 8.88%
 
Indifference. I do not own a high end PC. 202 19.29%
 
Total:1,047

I don't consider myself part of the "master race" (for the most part, i actively dislike that part of the PC gaming community), but the PC is still my primary gaming home, so i'll answer anyway :p

UC4 isn't the most technically impressive game I've ever played (nor would i expect it to be; for the same price as the PC i'm currently building, i could put a PS4 in every room in my flat, and still have enough for a long holiday. Even fairly mediocre looking games can look great when you throw enough pixels at them), but as an overall graphical and aesthetic package, it's definitely one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen. At some points everything comes together to make something that looks genuinely incredible. That it managed to achieve that while simultaneously shifting its focus to more interactive set-pieces, and a more open approach to level-design, really impressed me.



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John2290 said:
Qwark said:
Star citizens obliterate Uncharted 4 to be honest.

What? The metal walls look better?

Star Citizen has more and higher quality effects. Physics for instance are in another league entirely, thanks to the 64bit floating point.
The PC can also do super samping which is far superior to the hybrid approach Uncharted uses.

Shadowing is also a step up in Star Citizen... In Uncharted 4, shadows often look low-resolution and pixelated by comparison.

Star Citizen is a massive fully realised game world, Uncharted is a small confined space... Larger game worlds tend to require more processing time because... Well. There is more stuff.

Intrinsic said:
This will not end well.

I do feel this is a pointless debate tho, as always with the PC master race, they tend to look more at resolution, framerate, multiple displays, tech.....etc . Than actually look at a games overall presentation and design. Its like saying a toilet is better than every other toilet sinply because its made from gold.

Or my favorite, it will look better on PC (which is true of going simply by the hardware). Someone here even says one day it will be on PC......... ok

So resolution is only important if you are comparing the PS4 to the Xbox one then? Resolution is obviously an important factor to people on these forums, I assume even to you with several posts talking about resolution over the past few years.

And if you think the PC is only offering more resolution, framerates and multiple displays, then you haven't really been paying attention to the platform have you?

And yes. It will be on PC one day. All console games end up on PC eventually. It's called emulation, PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation is even underway and thus Uncharted 1,2 and 3.

Turkish said:
Pemalite said:

But it's only 1080P. - Would look better on PC without question.
Thankfully one day it will be on PC.

Star Citizen is technically superior, especially across multiple displays, Uncharted is small in scope in comparison.

Technically superior? Nothing about the game makes me impressed. A space sim that takes place in space just doesn't have the wow factor of a colorful game like Uncharted 4.

The gameplay itself is up to personal opinion. From a technical perspective, the things that drive the image quality is technically superior in Star Citizen, assets are all higher quality.

Personally, as someone who played a couple of the Uncharted games, I found them to be rather boring, but only because it didn't suit my tastes, but that is another discussion entirely, this is about the technical merits.

ArchangelMadzz said:
Pemalite said:

I did answer the question. Aka. "I've seen better".

Physics, Shadowing, Texturing, VFX the works are all a step down from Star Citizen. Not to mention that Uncharted 4 is only 1080P/900P and struggles to maintain 60fps.
I won't even mention the inferior Anti-Aliasing and texture filtering and some of the Normal Map pop-in.

Uncharted managed to achieve it's degree of fidelity thanks to the tiny areas which allows more of the consoles limited resources to be focused on the teeny  tiny amount of assets, it's the same issue that the Order 1886 and Ryse had, they were very "small" experiences.

Uncharted 4 is a decently looking game, for a console game. - But the PC is still in another league entirely, especially once you start looking towards 5k, eyefinity/surround vision/VR, in other words, it's the same old status quo.


I've seen better isn't an answer,

'Uncharted 4 is a decently looking game, for a console game' That's an answer.

'Where you impressed by your cake'  'I've had better' could mean, it was really good, you've had better but it's still great. Or it could mean, I've had better, it was terrible.

Struggles? 


Tiny areas? Well someone hasn't played the game or even looked at it's levels in single player, because that couldn't be further from the truth? Even in the E3 demo you can see the areas are huge.

The areas are also linear (Yes the areas are tiny, we aren't talking Witcher/Star Citizen/GTA/Elder Scrolls/Fallout sized areas here), which lends itself well to streaming and allowing for a focus on resources to be confined to a smaller space.

If you think it's in the same league as something like Star Citizen on a technical level, then you are mistaken, the PS4 couldn't even handle Star Citizens thanks to the Physics load alone, let alone a multitude of effects that are to expensive for a console to perform adequetely.

And I quote Chris Roberts "Cloud Imperium is supporting cutting-edge technology that will only run on PCs running top-end hardware." and "It will NEVER be dumbed down for a lesser platform. We will NOT limit the input options or supported peripherals to the lowest common denominator. We will NOT pass on features and technology just because they will only run on some hardware configurations." - And they had actually gotten a PS4 dev kit to try porting it.

Which implies that Star Citizen from a technical perspective is impossible on a PS4 in it's current iteration, the gameplay actually backs that up to if you have played any of the modules on a high-end equipped PC.

Does that make Uncharted 4 ugly? Hardly. But it's certainly not the best, seen plenty of videos and screens and seeing low quality pixelated shadowing, blurry low-resolution tectures, confined linear world... Sub-par anti-aliasing and filtering, but it also has decent lighting and particle effects and some fantastic character animations.




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Pemalite said:
Intrinsic said:
This will not end well.

I do feel this is a pointless debate tho, as always with the PC master race, they tend to look more at resolution, framerate, multiple displays, tech.....etc . Than actually look at a games overall presentation and design. Its like saying a toilet is better than every other toilet sinply because its made from gold.

Or my favorite, it will look better on PC (which is true of going simply by the hardware). Someone here even says one day it will be on PC......... ok

So resolution is only important if you are comparing the PS4 to the Xbox one then? Resolution is obviously an important factor to people on these forums, I assume even to you with several posts talking about resolution over the past few years.

And if you think the PC is only offering more resolution, framerates and multiple displays, then you haven't really been paying attention to the platform have you?

And yes. It will be on PC one day. All console games end up on PC eventually. It's called emulation, PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation is even underway and thus Uncharted 1,2 and 3.


Emulation can only go as far IF someone is willing to burn a lot of time to make one. Not to mention if there is indeed one, it's gonna be buggy as hell. Even PS2 emulation suffers from compatibility issues. Oh and that experience I had with 3DS emulator being one hell of a quagmire by needing a high end PC to even run properly.

Well don't worry I'm also waiting for a PS3 emulator myself. Or a proper PS2 emulator for mobile devices. 

Yet they aren't gonna show up anytime soon so yeah.....  For the mean time we can wish upon a shooting star and dream about it that it's ready and available when we want it.



iron_megalith said:
Pemalite said:

So resolution is only important if you are comparing the PS4 to the Xbox one then? Resolution is obviously an important factor to people on these forums, I assume even to you with several posts talking about resolution over the past few years.

And if you think the PC is only offering more resolution, framerates and multiple displays, then you haven't really been paying attention to the platform have you?

And yes. It will be on PC one day. All console games end up on PC eventually. It's called emulation, PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation is even underway and thus Uncharted 1,2 and 3.


Emulation can only go as far IF someone is willing to burn a lot of time to make one.

Still waiting on a PS3 emulator myself. Or a proper PS2 emulator for mobile devices.

Yet they aren't gonna show up anytime soon so yeah..... We're all gonna dream about it that it's ready and available when we want it.

PS3 emulation is happening extremely quickly. - http://rpcs3.net/
With some games already being playable, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next year or two we are able to play the Uncharted trilogy on PC in full 4k/5k.
I remember people on these forums saying it won't happen for years due to the Cell being so difficult, yet the PS3 emulator is farther along than the Xbox 360 emulator!

As for PS2 emulation, it's extremely well developed on PC now, mobile hardware still has some catching up to do though, but if you have an x86 tablet like Microsoft's surface it's perfectly doable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=birlJx5Entw

But this is trending off topic now, probably best to make a new thread if you wish to discuss emulation?




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First of all: Fuck this Master Race bullshit. Both the people who claim to be part of it, and the people who try to use it as an insult. It was old years ago.

Second: I haven't played UC4 yet (I've been dragging my heels on actually playing the first 3), I've only seen gameplay videos. But as someone whose main gaming system is a fairly high end PC, I'm impressed by what I've seen from UC4. Just like I was impressed by The Order and Drive Club. Doesn't mean they're technically better, but they do look good.



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Game looks good but is not the best I've seen tbh and that's before we come to the issue of graphically modded games.



Pemalite said:
iron_megalith said:

Emulation can only go as far IF someone is willing to burn a lot of time to make one.

Still waiting on a PS3 emulator myself. Or a proper PS2 emulator for mobile devices.

Yet they aren't gonna show up anytime soon so yeah..... We're all gonna dream about it that it's ready and available when we want it.

PS3 emulation is happening extremely quickly. - http://rpcs3.net/
With some games already being playable, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next year or two we are able to play the Uncharted trilogy on PC in full 4k/5k.
I remember people on these forums saying it won't happen for years due to the Cell being so difficult, yet the PS3 emulator is farther along than the Xbox 360 emulator!

As for PS2 emulation, it's extremely well developed on PC now, mobile hardware still has some catching up to do though, but if you have an x86 tablet like Microsoft's surface it's perfectly doable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=birlJx5Entw

But this is trending off topic now, probably best to make a new thread if you wish to discuss emulation?

Shame I got quoted before I added some things. Oh well.

Like I said emulation will definitely happen if someone did pour their time into it. Of course within that time frame we are at the mercy if they should be willing to optimize the emulation program. Most of the time it becomes insane with how poorly it manages its resources. I stopped using emulation 2 years ago since I've already played/revisited the games I wanted. The bad taste of that ridiculous 3DS emulator still lingers in my mouth.

Anyway yes, we should stop talking about this.



Depends what you mean with graphics. Artistically it's amazing and easily better than anything on PC. But as I said before, you can put the Mona Lisa in a slide show but it will still be a slide show.
Gaming on a PC is not just about having the prettiest pictures. It's about not having to make compromises or at least having a choice. The fact that so many talented game developers are bound to just one platform is bad for everyone.

Yes Uncharted is very pretty and it runs amazing on the hardware it's given but that is no testament to the hardware it's on but to some very talented people who are sadly bound to this hardware, making a lot of gamers sad.



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Pemalite said:

But it's only 1080P. - Would look better on PC without question.
Thankfully one day it will be on PC.

Star Citizen is technically superior, especially across multiple displays, Uncharted is small in scope in comparison.

Do you have some intel we don't?



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Pemalite said:
Chevinator123 said:

By then the PS5 will be out and UC4 wont even be relevant

UC4 will likely receive "enhancements" to make it look and run better than the original.

So will the ps4 version on the Neo2 by that time