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Teeqoz on 18 May 2016

Come on guys, Splatoon outsold Halo 5, so let's not pretend it's the userbase holding it back...



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Puppyroach on 18 May 2016

Great sales and considering the insane legs of Uncharted, it will top the third entry in the series LTD. I'm also glad to see the continued strong legs for Halo 5 :).



Azzanation on 18 May 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Azzanation said:

So you call Greenburgs statments "i would never affiliate my good word with the bullshit of greenbergs"  yet you say "if people cant handel factual data and sales comparison, then they should go cry somewhere else."

Greenburgs statments were facts, seems like your contridicting yourself here.

 

 

UC Collection was also heavily bundled with the PS4 and was its cheapest Bundle going around. Plus the User base being twice as much, its not a fair comparison. Halo 5 is one of XB1s most expensive bundles and has half the User Base. Talk about doing an unfair comparisons while one franchise is heavily handicapped. If Halo 5 was released on the PS4 it would outsell UC4 and the collection. Thats based off Halos history which if you do the research you will find that Halo is a much bigger franchise and especially in Sales terms. What hurt Halo 5 was the XB1. Halo 5 would sell millions and probably twice the amount on the PS4. Uncharted games never surpass 7m yet Halo on multiple occasions has and can.

I  don't think that Userbase is a problem for a Franchise,  new franchises will sell much more with a bigger user base but if a franchise already is huge like Halo, people would purchase a Xbox One to play the game.

Uncharted have 3 Main games + 1 Vita Spin Off + 1 Remaster and sold 28-29 Millions according to Sony if we take the Spin-off away (because it don't sold the same as the other games) We will have a Average per game bigger than 6.5 Millions for Uncharted's franchise this is a very solid Franchise, Halo games did 5+ Millions and on the Xbox 360 Era 10+ Millions, but now it is selling less. Even if Uncharted 4 made the same numbers of Uncharted 3 would already surpass Halo 5 in Sales, Halo is the one who damaged itself, Uncharted franchise only stayed consistent and selling each time more than the previous entry

Uncharted doesn't come out every year so its a game thats been on wish lists for a very long time. If Uncharted came out yearly it would also suffer a similar decline like Halo. If you want to do a fair comparison then compare title to title.  Halo 1 vs Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 4 vs Halo 4. There's your true winner in sales.

 

No damage has been to the Franchise because Halo 5 still sells well and has only increased Halos value. Selling 4m and possibly 5m including Digital is far from a damaged Franchise. 



Azzanation on 18 May 2016
Kerotan said:
Azzanation said:

So you call Greenburgs statments "i would never affiliate my good word with the bullshit of greenbergs"  yet you say "if people cant handel factual data and sales comparison, then they should go cry somewhere else."

Greenburgs statments were facts, seems like your contridicting yourself here.

 

 

UC Collection was also heavily bundled with the PS4 and was its cheapest Bundle going around. Plus the User base being twice as much, its not a fair comparison. Halo 5 is one of XB1s most expensive bundles and has half the User Base. Talk about doing an unfair comparisons while one franchise is heavily handicapped. If Halo 5 was released on the PS4 it would outsell UC4 and the collection. Thats based off Halos history which if you do the research you will find that Halo is a much bigger franchise and especially in Sales terms. What hurt Halo 5 was the XB1. Halo 5 would sell millions and probably twice the amount on the PS4. Uncharted games never surpass 7m yet Halo on multiple occasions has and can.

Absolutely not. Ps4 fans into halo type games were satisfied with the superior destiny by bungie who lets be honest were the reason halo used to be an industry leader 

Superior Destiny? Lol Destiny based on reviews is far from superior. Im glad Bungie left and didnt turn Halo 5 in a Destiny type game. Thats my opinion but many reviewers agree with me. Taken King was good but Destiny as a whole failed in my eye. I stopped playing it after completing it. What a disapointment.



Swordmasterman on 18 May 2016
Azzanation said:
Swordmasterman said:

I  don't think that Userbase is a problem for a Franchise,  new franchises will sell much more with a bigger user base but if a franchise already is huge like Halo, people would purchase a Xbox One to play the game.

Uncharted have 3 Main games + 1 Vita Spin Off + 1 Remaster and sold 28-29 Millions according to Sony if we take the Spin-off away (because it don't sold the same as the other games) We will have a Average per game bigger than 6.5 Millions for Uncharted's franchise this is a very solid Franchise, Halo games did 5+ Millions and on the Xbox 360 Era 10+ Millions, but now it is selling less. Even if Uncharted 4 made the same numbers of Uncharted 3 would already surpass Halo 5 in Sales, Halo is the one who damaged itself, Uncharted franchise only stayed consistent and selling each time more than the previous entry

Uncharted doesn't come out every year so its a game thats been on wish lists for a very long time. If Uncharted came out yearly it would also suffer a similar decline like Halo. If you want to do a fair comparison then compare title to title.  Halo 1 vs Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 4 vs Halo 4. There's your true winner in sales.

 

No damage has been to the Franchise because Halo 5 still sells well and has only increased Halos value. Selling 4m and possibly 5m including Digital is far from a damaged Franchise. 

Halo 5 damaged itself because the last games sold more, Halo have Several Spin-offs but not much main-line games the franchise is 5-6 years older than Uncharted and only have 1 Main Entry more than Uncharted.

I Don't think that Spin-offs damaged Halo 5's sales i think that is because the game is not developed by Halo's creators.



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Kerotan on 18 May 2016
Azzanation said:
Kerotan said:

Absolutely not. Ps4 fans into halo type games were satisfied with the superior destiny by bungie who lets be honest were the reason halo used to be an industry leader 

Superior Destiny? Lol Destiny based on reviews is far from superior. Im glad Bungie left and didnt turn Halo 5 in a Destiny type game. Thats my opinion but many reviewers agree with me. Taken King was good but Destiny as a whole failed in my eye. I stopped playing it after completing it. What a disapointment.

Based on reviews but not based on players.  a lot of the old halo crowd who converted to ps4 have been loving it.  it's a solid start for the new IP.  Expect big improvements with destiny 2



Azzanation on 19 May 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Azzanation said:

UC Collection was also heavily bundled with the PS4 and was its cheapest Bundle going around. Plus the User base being twice as much, its not a fair comparison. Halo 5 is one of XB1s most expensive bundles and has half the User Base. Talk about doing an unfair comparisons while one franchise is heavily handicapped. If Halo 5 was released on the PS4 it would outsell UC4 and the collection. Thats based off Halos history which if you do the research you will find that Halo is a much bigger franchise and especially in Sales terms. What hurt Halo 5 was the XB1. Halo 5 would sell millions and probably twice the amount on the PS4. Uncharted games never surpass 7m yet Halo on multiple occasions has and can.

No denying it, man. As of now, Halo is a series in decline. This isn't to say that the follow-up can't sell better than Halo 5, but as it stands, you can't know what it would/wouldn't do on the PS4 and you certainly don't know if it is still a bigger IP than Uncharted based on anything in this gen, thus far.

Define Bigger? Because if you Wiki Halo and Uncharted you will find Halo as a franchise is in another league to Uncharted when it comes to a bigger franchise.

*The games have sold over 65 million copies worldwide, with the games alone grossing almost $3.4 billion*

*Strong sales of the games led to the franchise's expansion to other media; there are multiple best-selling novels, graphic novels, and other licensed products.*

Thats not including Halo 5 sales and its gross income.

Now if you Wiki Uncharted you will barely find anything there. This isnt me trying to one up Halo and down grade Uncharted, but to say you dont know which one is a bigger IP is strange. You might aswell say God of War is a bigger IP to Minecraft.

How is Halo in the decline? Because Halo 5 sold 4m copies? Halo 4 sold 9m copies at the end of its life and i remember many gamers saying the same thing for Halo 4 on release. Halo 5 could and up selling 7-9m at the end of its life because unlike most games, Halo games have legs and until the next release, Halo 5 is still a game being sold in stores and will be for quite some time.

*Halo 5: Guardians and game-related hardware grossed over US$400 million in its first twenty-four hours and US$500 million in its first week*

Judging from these stats, i dont see the decline. Your basing success off game sales only and not the actrually brand. Expect Halo 6 to be even bigger and better.



barneystinson69 on 19 May 2016
darkenergy said:
Some might need to learn the definition of killed since Halo is still on the charts.

Shocked its in the top 10. Guess it actually is having good legs.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 on 19 May 2016
JRPGfan said:
poklane said:

Also Uncharted 4 = Halo 5 + Rise of the Tomb Raider

[Week 19, 2016] UNCHARTED 4: A THIEF'S END (SONY COMPUTER ENT.) - 192,000 / NEW

[Week 44, 2015] HALO 5: GUARDIANS (MICROSOFT) - 150,000
[Week 46, 2015] RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE) - 42,000 / NEW

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203790441&postcount=73

O_O  wow.

Uncharted 4 sold more than Halo 5 + Rise of the tomb Raider combined.

In the UK (rest of the world its going to be many times more).

Uncharted is setting the world on fire with those sales.

10m copies of Uncharted 4 lifetime sales are gonna happend, mark my words.

If it is mass-bundled, absolutely. Otherwise, not a chance in hell. Not to try to lower any spirits, but 10m seems extremely unrealistic. But hey, other things that seemed impossible happened, so lets wait in see.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 on 19 May 2016
Kerotan said:
Azzanation said:

It hasnt outsold Halo 5, Halo 5 sits on 4m sold and thats not including digital sales and its still selling and being bundled while UC4 has sold 190k in the UK..

Maybe wait until UC4 gets numbers before making claims. UC4 might have horrible legs, no one knows yet. I would wait 6 months before making claims. Also remember UC4 would have a bigger launch since its on a platform with more then double the customers so the adds and marketing will always help it boost early sales.

Meh the uncharted collection sold more than Halo 5 so far.  I'm pretty sure uncharted 4 will outsell the collection.  

 

@doom split 

That's actually are really good and surprising victory for the ps4. Never thought doom would be so Playstation focused. 

The uncharted collection was one of the main bundle's for the PS4 throughout the holiday season. NPD numbers without bundle's already showed it did far less (around 250k).



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).