WTF are wrong with some of you people. Any game that sells over 1 mil is not a flop! and for high profile games, 1.5-2mil I'd say. Just because a game sold 3 mil and not 5 mil does not mean its a flop. Geez what is wrong with some of you? A game making millions of dollars of profit, and you call it a flop? I feel sorry for games that don't even make it to a million....
If I look at it the way you people do, then if Gears of wars 2 doesn't sell 5 million, its a flop? get real. Even if that game sold 2.5 million, it did great, just wasn't the mega seller you were expecting it to be. Some people need to be more realistic.
Remember, FFVII sold about 10million units, FFIX sold a little over half of that, that doesn't mean that FFIX bombed.. because I know alot of developers out there wished their games sold half as much as FFIX did!
GT5 and MGS4 will not bomb or flop or whatever. It might not sell as high as the previous games, which makes sense considering the userbase. But it will in no way bomb. And i can assure you that both will sell over 3 mill WW.