hoala said:
you should read the title and first 2 sentences in op again i guess What about you giving me any source about nintendo saying they will improve power with the nx? And a real statement from nintendo, no rumours, leaks and co like those two controller pictures some weeks ago. Because every rumour is telling something different (xbox one power level, ps4 power level, between xbox one and ps4, better then ps4). So all bullshit.
Here is a rumour/leak/speculation about its power: "According to Forbes, the more likely release date for the Nintendo NX would be 2017.
Nintendo loyalists are hoping that the Nintendo NX packs power that could make it on par, and even surpass, the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. However, that is also unlikely, as Nintendo is not showing any desire or even capability to do such a feat. Setting the Nintendo NX on equal footing with the power of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One could help, but only for a few years until the next generation of consoles by Sony and Microsoft are set for release."
Even at 40 wattage you need probl a fence (even intels 14 wattage ULV Cpus need a fence) and a pretty big, powerfull and expensive battery. And it will be to exepnsive. Nintendo wont do that. I sitll want the name of the device thats capable of running games like gta 5 on something like 1080p30fps mid settings without a fence. Thanks. Even without 14nm and newest generations something like this should easily be possible right now, if you want NX being able to play games like witcher 3, final fantasy 15 and co later.
Your technical knowledge is impressive. |
Your OP is basically saying "I can make any arbitrary prediction I like, without any basis to support it", that's not how a logical, evidentiary supported debate works. These kinds of predictions about future generations from console/handheld hardware creators should always be based on reality, otherwise you could just say I'll give NX a quantum computer and release at $100, it's great because that's what I want, so I win the argument.
FYI Kimishima has outright stated that NX will not be another Wii or Wii U, both are the only lower power systems for their respective times, that's enough of a factual statement from Nintendo to support that NX isn't going to have hardware that is only marginally better than Wii U.
Wii is anomoly, it's the only Nintendo console to ever be only a marginal step up from it's predecessor, the rest have been significantly more powerful, even if NX isn't a beast by modern standards, we have only a single generation as an example of Nintendo doing what you're suggesting from a hardware performance perspective. We should be looking at the overwhelming examples of past generational shifts for Nintendo, not the odd one out.
As for your comments about cost, I already gave an example of a 28nm processor that could run games at half the resolution of PS4, but still output close to the same base visuals as that system. Carrizo came out in 2015, it would be cheap for Nintendo now. Since NX is coming in 2017 the 14nm tech makes more sense and as I said it's not expensive, not going by AMD's own cost targets for release of Polaris, I doubt Zen will be costly either, since as far as I'm aware (and anyone feel free to link me if it's been stated to be otherwise) Zen uses the same 14nm process, but I'll change my tune about APU prices if Zen turns out be much more expensive to make.
By fences I assume you mean boundaries for heat in a small device (that's the only real issue here), to that I say that notebooks are already using this kind of power, in small enclosures and there aren't any issues. As for the cost of battery tech, it's cheap, hell you can buy a battery pack that offers better energy storage than even the highest end gaming laptops need for like £29.99 or less.
20,000 mah battery packs (that's over 3X what a gaming laptop uses for it's battery), that can recharge iPAD Airs multiple times over are light weight, weigh no more than Wii U's gamepad, that's with a case, so it would take all but the screen, motherboard, RAM chips and SOC into consideration.
These batteries are made to make their creators money, so profits are a part of that price, no way would it cost Nintendo or anyone else anything close to that price.
If people are fine carrying around iPads and gaming on them, Nintendo would be fine releasing similar weight devices for their needs.
Going back to Kimishima's comment above his statement could be taken to mean NX will not only be a capable device by modern graphical and gameplay standards, but also targeted towards getting a bigger audience interested (which makes sense from a business perspective), which means getting 3rd party developers back on board, which is not happening if Nintendo makes this weak level of hardware you suggest, to only satisfy their own concerns as content creators.
Saying that Nintendo should stay with Wii U level hardware, because that allows them to continue making this limited level of games is ludicrous, it makes no sense, it doesn't get anyone interested in making games for a Nintendo system again and literally the only people that would continue to make games for Nintendo would be those developers that only work for Nintendo. It would stifle their creative vision, because their canvas is way more limited than it needs to be.
Nintendo making a cheap console and handheld, for the sake of being cheap is an asinine reason to do so, you make a new platform because you want to do what couldn't be done before in your games and appeal to a bigger audience than your last product. Kimishima's own comments are outright stating that this is not going to be another Wii or Wii U.
Seriously look back at my initial post in this thread, it's way more fitting with Iwata's original comments and it literally makes the most sense for Nintendo going forward. Kimishima has even said that this is a long term strategy, using Wii U 2 and Wii U handheld doesn't do that.
