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Mr Puggsly on 24 April 2016
Robtommy34 said:
forbes.com/sites/lauraheller/2016/04/23/targets-transgender-bathroom-policy-makes-it-a-boycott-target/#323e6c781e50

Here is the Forbes article, and succinctly; it states that transgender people are allowed to use the restroom that they feel the most comfortable in using. I support this, as moving to a society more free of discrimination and toward liberal values is a good thing. Also, if what people are worried about happens, if you have some of these perverts that try to peep on the peeing women, and it happens too often, Target can always reverse it's position. It's just a company's stance, not a societal level of change.

I think most of us are pretty liberal on social issues. Our concern has always been creepy guys and if this decision was left to women the majority probably dont want to shit with men.

Its not about discriminating trangenders, its about men statisiticially being more creepy than women.

Men dont care about shitting with women. But they dont want to be in our restrooms unless theirs is full.



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Metallox on 24 April 2016
Dulfite said:

That's parents. I'm concerned about my wife going into the bathroom and some 350 pound rapist goes in there after her. There comes a point when, regardless of your opinion or beliefs (or lack thereof), we have to weigh which rights are MORE important.

The rights for freedom (choosing bathrooms or abortion for your own convenience/desire, for example) or the rights of safety/life (my wife's safety from rapists or a babies right to life, for example).

We HAVE to prioritize otherwise we risk harm and death in the hope of achieving more comfort for a incredibly specific and small portion of the human population.

Someone has already said it, but yeah, rapers are not going to care if they are entering to the incorrect bathroom. 



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AlfredoTurkey on 24 April 2016

It's quite simple. The idea that someone can just fucking shout "I IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN" when he's really a guy and walk into a females bathroom legally... is bullshit. There's no proof. There's no way to prove anyone actually does. Any perv, pedo, or predator can just "say" that and then go into a bathroom, where there are no cameras, no security... nothing... it's dangerous beyond belief.

It will NOT happen for very long, because the lawsuits will prevent it. As they should.



SuaveSocialist on 24 April 2016

I'd say that this is a classic example of the Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc Fallacy, except that Target sales aren't even down and Forbes credits inclusiveness as good for business.

I think the OP is actually trying to say "I reject your reality and substitute my own". (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IRejectYourReality)



Yerm on 24 April 2016

forget it, time to just ride out the storm and see where things go.... *grabs popcorn*



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Normchacho on 24 April 2016
AlfredoTurkey said:

It's quite simple. The idea that someone can just fucking shout "I IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN" when he's really a guy and walk into a females bathroom legally... is bullshit. There's no proof. There's no way to prove anyone actually does. Any perv, pedo, or predator can just "say" that and then go into a bathroom, where there are no cameras, no security... nothing... it's dangerous beyond belief.

It will NOT happen for very long, because the lawsuits will prevent it. As they should.

What? Target didn't change the law! hahaha! There are most states have no laws about bathroom usage and even those that do rarely make a thing out of it unless someone is causing a problem.

Any perv, pedo, or predator can just walk into a womens bathroom. They don't have bouncers. 

This is an interesting line of thought though...gun laws don't make sense, because criminals don't follow them, Bathroom signs though, you don't mess with bathroom signs.



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DivinePaladin on 24 April 2016
Normchacho said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

It's quite simple. The idea that someone can just fucking shout "I IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN" when he's really a guy and walk into a females bathroom legally... is bullshit. There's no proof. There's no way to prove anyone actually does. Any perv, pedo, or predator can just "say" that and then go into a bathroom, where there are no cameras, no security... nothing... it's dangerous beyond belief.

It will NOT happen for very long, because the lawsuits will prevent it. As they should.

What? Target didn't change the law! hahaha! There are most states have no laws about bathroom usage and even those that do rarely make a thing out of it unless someone is causing a problem.

Any perv, pedo, or predator can just walk into a womens bathroom. They don't have bouncers. 

This is an interesting line of thought though...gun laws don't make sense, because criminals don't follow them, Bathroom signs though, you don't mess with bathroom signs.

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AlfredoTurkey on 25 April 2016
Normchacho said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

It's quite simple. The idea that someone can just fucking shout "I IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN" when he's really a guy and walk into a females bathroom legally... is bullshit. There's no proof. There's no way to prove anyone actually does. Any perv, pedo, or predator can just "say" that and then go into a bathroom, where there are no cameras, no security... nothing... it's dangerous beyond belief.

It will NOT happen for very long, because the lawsuits will prevent it. As they should.

What? Target didn't change the law! hahaha! There are most states have no laws about bathroom usage and even those that do rarely make a thing out of it unless someone is causing a problem.

Any perv, pedo, or predator can just walk into a womens bathroom. They don't have bouncers. 

This is an interesting line of thought though...gun laws don't make sense, because criminals don't follow them, Bathroom signs though, you don't mess with bathroom signs.

Again, there is no way to prove anyone "identifies" as something they're not. That's why the whole thing is one big joke and won't last long.



Zappykins on 25 April 2016

I remember in the 70's having friends of my parents come back from other countries and talk about gender-less bathroom. They say you just get used to it.

Personally, not a fan of anyone hanging out too closely when I'm going, so really doesn't matter to me which gender it is. Just keep your hands and thoughts to yourself.



 

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JWeinCom on 25 April 2016
spurgeonryan said:

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/04/24/dad-takes-daughter-to-target-to-confront-manager-about-bathroom-policy-what-he-does-next-goes-viral-332627

 

So I was wondering why we were up in sales today by almost double. We were struggling to keep up.

 

There is no problem with what Target did, other than they forget there are still creeps out there that will take advantage of this. Some pedo will dress up and go in these bathrooms. How can people let their daughters use these bathrooms now and feel safe?

 

If target wanted to take a stance they ahiuld have ooened up a separate unisex bathroom. This PR will miss will take them a long time to fix. 

 

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Dude... haven't you worked in retail for like 5 years or something?  Haven't you had days that are just unusually busy without having anything to do with transgendered people?  Cause that shit happened all the time to me.