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Uncharted 4.

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JRPGfan said:
IDOLxISxDEAD said:
There's already some games that look better than UC4, it's not a benchmark, sorry.

Theres no console games that look better imo. That makes it the benchmark others go up against.

Ppl should stop pretending there are PC games that look better too. Seriously there aren´t, you can upscale some game to 4k resolution using a super powerfull machine, natively nothing looks as good as UC 4 it just doesnt Star Child might have better graphics when its release, but it hasntreleased yet.



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Everything else needs to improve before graphics. I'm sick of playing games that seem to cater to people with little taste in acting, character development and story.



 

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DakonBlackblade said:
JRPGfan said:

Theres no console games that look better imo. That makes it the benchmark others go up against.

Ppl should stop pretending there are PC games that look better too. Seriously there isn´t, you can upscale some game to 4k resolution using a super powerfull machine, natively nothing looks as good as UC 4 it just doesnt Star Child might have better graphics when its release, but it hasntreleased yet.

What game is Star Child?. Will it ever have better visuals when it releases or are we just going to pretend to admit and then say it doesn't when it comes out?.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

We could have stopped at infamous 2 and I would be happy. Just improve resolution, animation, framerate and special effects.



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Chazore said:
DakonBlackblade said:

Ppl should stop pretending there are PC games that look better too. Seriously there isn´t, you can upscale some game to 4k resolution using a super powerfull machine, natively nothing looks as good as UC 4 it just doesnt Star Child might have better graphics when its release, but it hasnt released yet.

What game is Star Child?. Will it ever have better visuals when it releases or are we just going to pretend to admit and then say it doesn't when it comes out?.

Star Citzen I guess, Sar whatever its called, that game that has Mark Hammil on it and that gets delayed on a daily basis.



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DakonBlackblade said:
Chazore said:

What game is Star Child?. Will it ever have better visuals when it releases or are we just going to pretend to admit and then say it doesn't when it comes out?.

Star Citzen I guess, Sar whatever its called, that game that has Mark Hammil on it and that gets delayed on a daily basis.

Star Citizen, it remains to be seen if that game will ever get out of alpha.  As of this moment, it's a ~$110 million bit of vaporware or one giant scam, hard to tell.



John2290 said:
HoloDust said:
I'll start thinking like that when hardware is powerful enough to handle ray/path tracing/casting, and whole game world is physically based...IIRC, from Gamasutra interview with Tim Sweeney (EPIC Games/Unreal Engine) few years ago, that's some 25TFLOPS.

Well with VR everything goes back to basics. While frame rates and the game world, being a 3 deminsional space and having form now becomes more important as fleshing out polygons into a circle most everything else becomes a luxury. Ill revisit my opinion that graphics need not outpace Uncharted 4 when all that catches back up and games are released fully functional and finished without any fucking patches. And fuck Tim Sweeney, the mans lifes work relies on an evolution of graphics and constantly pushing need for better tech to achieve it, he doesn't give a shit about gameplay or the consumers right to have some kind of quality in the product they are investing their money into, regardless of who ultimuley own the content.

Not sure what you're mumbling about, all I see are harsh words againt Tim Sweeney for no reason - he is coder, always was, not a game designer, so of course he wants to push tech....and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, fully voxel octree based engine of that capacity (that's what he was talking about) would give developers much, much more freedom in how player and world interact, not to mention how light behaves.



Ok, Uncharted4 looks Amazing, fantastic, but if you ask me, I always want more :) So, why not God of War 4 on NEO, which would most probably crush my eyes for its beauty and wonder. NEO comes to me !



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spemanig said:
They didn't even need to look as good as TLoU.

The widespread persuit of realism in a medium this inherently artistic is so weird to me. Such a waste of time, money, and recourses that would be better spent on things like animation, AI, and actual game design.

Imagine if anime did this.

Animation actually happens to be the area that UC4 impresses me most (and surprisingly, also FF15 to a degree) :p. While we still have a ways to go, it's nice to finally have console games (for the most part games in general, really) have complex reactive animation systems. Some 7th gen games (Uncharted included) have attempted it in the past, but the transitions in the animation chains often felt clunky, and there were usually only a handful of parameters that triggered more than 1 anyway. Finally having characters consistently and believably react to their surroundings and the players actions is super neet.

The only major technical or design concern I have for UC4 is AI. That's one area the industry at large rarely seems to care about pushing forwards, and that trend is reflected in how the PS4, X1, and WiiU were designed. More often that not the games described as having 'great AI" are just doing what should already be the standard.



I don't really think it's up to any of us, I don't own or operate a studio, I don't have a plan or vision for a game, I merely have money to purchase games I find interesting. Some of them look spectacular, others don't make graphics their top priority. I'm fine with all types of games. If I had the money though, I would employ devs/engineers specifically for the purposes of working with the cutting edge hardware, because I think there aren't enough of them out there.