hershel_layton said:
Huh...Never thoughts of how sex is speaking a different language, let alone for arabic. Makes a lot of interesting thoughts thrive inside my head |
Indeed :)
hershel_layton said:
Huh...Never thoughts of how sex is speaking a different language, let alone for arabic. Makes a lot of interesting thoughts thrive inside my head |
Indeed :)
Veknoid_Outcast said:
1.If you want to take literal sections of religious books and assume all adherents of a given faith accept those at face value, then, guess what, Christians, Muslims, and Jews are all capable of wicked and sinful acts. But the reality is not many people accept the literal word of the Torah, the Bible, and the Quran. They apply its central teachings to their everyday life, but they don't offen enslave or stone one another. 2.Now, some cruel or ignorant people do commit horrible acts in the name of religion and god. We've seen ISIS rape, torture, and kill. But that, as Mo artfully said, is a perversion of Islam - at least according to hundreds of years of Islamic jurisprudence and the attitudes of the majority of modern Muslims. |
I don't believe Christianity, Judaism nor Islam are moderate religions. I do, however, agree that most Chrsitians do not accept the literal word of the Bible. The number of Muslims who accept the literal word of the Quran far outstrips those accept the literal word of the Bible though.
I have always taken issues with people labeling themselves as "Muslims", "Christians" or "athiests" when they have not done enough reading and learning. In my opinion, If you call yourself a Muslim, and do not do what Allah is telling you to do in his "unaltered book", then you are either lazy or not a Muslim. I tried to give religions a chance and I was left with a sour taste in my mouth reading, what is supposed to be, Gods guideliness on earth (Quran, Bible, Torah).
If you are telling me that moderate Muslims don't accept the literal word of the Quran, then you are effectively agreeing with what I intially said. The people, who follow religions, make their religions seem moderate by largely ignoring what's mentioned in their holy books.
This is not an attack on Arabs, Christians nor Muslims. I am thankful that most Christians aren't really Christians, that's why they are moderate. Most moderate Muslims aren't really Muslims, that's why they are moderate.
Veknoid_Outcast said:
But what do you think contributes to the older generation's reluctance to change? Is it a cultural issue? A religious issue? A geopolitical one? Is it related to income inequality? Is it, for lack of a better word, Arab-ness? It would be interesting to hear your perspective. |
The culture of Arabs is very exclusive- live near arabs, marry an arab, blah blah blah. While more and more Arabs are starting to marry arabs from other countries, I rarely see them marrying- say, a black person(or any other group).
The older generation simply doesn't adapt at all. From grudges against Jews to no interest in technology and medicine, they're more concerned about working and having kids.
"Arab-ness" is basically it. I typically joke about it with my Arab friends and family. However, I know it has actual consequences.
The income inequality isn't necessarily the #1 issue. They do have computers(although ones from 2002-2005 typically), but for some reason they don't seem to care about being more tolerant towards others.
It's either they don't care at all or they care 100% of the time. For instance, I had neighbours who weren't 100% comfortable with homosexuality(they're Muslim FYI), but they could care less if you're gay. They wouldn't stone you and shout "curse you in the name of allah" and all that.
As for others, they'll think you've gone bad if you have 1 different viewpoints. Whether if it's wanting to marry someone not Arab or something else, a portion of the Arab population thinks they need to do everything the same way their forefathers did it.
Think of it as the generation for the US in which we went from segregation to no segregation. The older population is stubborn and hate to admit they're wrong or need to change. It's only when they were put behind that segregation was finally dead(except for the few nut-jobs who are still in the KKK and whatnot).
The same concept is for Arabs, but on a larger and more impactful scale.
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LurkerJ said:
I don't believe Christianity, Judaism nor Islam are moderate religions. I do, however, agree that most Chrsitians do not accept the literal word of the Bible. The number of Muslims who accept the literal word of the Quran far outstrips those accept the literal word of the Bible though. I have always taken issues with people labeling themselves as "Muslims", "Christians" or "athiests" when they have not done enough reading and learning. In my opinion, If you call yourself a Muslim, and do not do what Allah is telling you to do in his "unaltered book", then you are either lazy or not a Muslim. I tried to give religions a chance and I was left with a sour taste in my mouth reading, what is supposed to be, Gods guideliness on earth (Quran, Bible, Torah). If you are telling me that moderate Muslims don't accept the literal word of the Quran, then you are effectively agreeing with what I intially said. The people, who follow religions, make their religions seem moderate by largely ignoring what's mentioned in their holy books. This is not an attack on Arabs, Christians nor Muslims. I am thankful that most Christians aren't really Christians, that's why they are moderate. Most moderate Muslims aren't really Muslims, that's why they are moderate. |
Ohhh, I see what you're saying. I guess in a way that's true. Although with all the conflicting material in holy texts, it would be next to impossible to follow their instructions to the letter.
hershel_layton said:
Hope my message is clear. |
Your message doesn't even make sense. I was jokingly arguing free speech, because someone in response to me argued it. Free speech is never a good argument on forums/websites. Yeah, you can say what you want. That doesn't mean you won't get banned for it. Read my post above.
And FYI, I don't care what you think about me. The message I got, though, is that your calling me an asshole.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
hershel_layton said:
get off the threads then lmao.
I make a bunch of gaming and off-topic threads. The people in VGChartz are a more mature audience compared to typical social media. Actual, good conversations occur most of the time. |
And trust me, I know. You are almost single handedly the reason I'm writing everything I'm writing.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
ohmylanta1003 said:
LOL. I never told you to go anywhere. But just because there is such a thing as free speech doesn't mean a website cannot force discussion to be on topic. Try and argue free speech while calling someone retarded on this site. You'll get banned, just like on most sites. Go onto the Rocket League subreddit and only make posts about League of Legends. You'll get banned. The point being, arguing free speech is pretty dumb. If anyone could post anything on any website, no website would be what it set out to be and the whole thing would be a mess. Subreddits exist to talk about very particular topics. Political websites exist to talk about politics. IGN exists to talk about gaming and similar forms of entertainment. This website should set out to do the same. |
LOL. You literally told me to "go there (politic sites) if you want to talk about that".
Sorry, not going anywhere. There's an entire section of the board dedicated to politics discussions, so you cannot even argue about being "on topic". Free speech FTW.
I do find it funny that you were moaning about people not joining the site and soon later were recommending members to go to other sites.
Internally consistent logic is overrated, un?
SuaveSocialist said:
LOL. You literally told me to "go there (politic sites) if you want to talk about that".
Sorry, not going anywhere. There's an entire section of the board dedicated to politics discussions, so you cannot even argue about being "on topic". Free speech FTW.
I do find it funny that you were moaning about people not joining the site and soon later were recommending members to go to other sites.
Internally consistent logic is overrated, un? |
I'm NOT TELLING YOU TO LEAVE THIS SITE! I'm just saying that if you want to talk politics, go talk politics somewhere else. When you want to talk video games, come here. I'm not trying to drive users that have the intent to use this website correctly away. Just the ones that set out to turn this website into something it isn't. And please stop saying free speech. That's not what we're talking about here. Your argument doesn't even make sense for the reasons I laid out in my last post.
I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.
Veknoid_Outcast said:
Ohhh, I see what you're saying. I guess in a way that's true. Although with all the conflicting material in holy texts, it would be next to impossible to follow their instructions to the letter. |
Well, yes. That's why I couldn't stop scratching my head back when I was reading the Holy books. I was taking notes, making tables, asking Christians & Muslims about what I find peculiar and genuinely trying to understand what the God is trying to convey, and they just didn't add up imo. And I can't say I am an athiest either, because there are just so many books about evolution and the big bang, but I have no time to read. I just want to play video games :)