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Forums - Movies & TV - 'Captain America: Civil War' Review Thread - 90% RT/75 MC score - WW BO = $991.0M/DOM = $314.2M

It opened to a massive $200M in only 63% of the oveseas market. Biggest openings ever in Brazil, Mexico and the Phillipines. If the WOM is a good as it seems, then it has a strong chance at grossing $1 B overseas on it's own. Insane numbers indeed.



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SuaveSocialist said:
Lawlight said:

Iron Man 2 should really not be a recommendation - no matter how much lower the score is to Civil War.

If you look at the reviews now, it's funny how there's suddenly 4 rotten reviews in the last 20 reviews compared to 1 in the previous 60 reviews.

So you're munching on salty crow and polishing your tinfoil hat.  Silly me---here I thought it was one or the other.


Have fun!

I think you don't know what eating crow means. The Marvel bias is clear for everyone to see - there's no need for conspiracy theories.



Lawlight said:

Iron Man 2 should really not be a recommendation - no matter how much lower the score is to Civil War.

If you look at the reviews now, it's funny how there's suddenly 4 rotten reviews in the last 20 reviews compared to 1 in the previous 60 reviews.

That's not strange at all.  Toy Story 3 had like 200+ Reviews before it got a single negative one.  

Often times, the most extreme reviews of anything (Games, movies, TV shows) come after the fact.  

Honestly, you have GOT to look at yourself in the mirror through an objective lens or something.  you are hilariously delusional, twisting EVERYTHING to its breaking point in order to justify your ludicrous opinions about a movie.  "Oh, critics are bought!"....no more or less than VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER MOVIE IN EXISTENCE IN THE LAST THIRTY YEARS!  "Oh, it's only THIRD best opening day in Korea."  only third?  That's Still third!  "Look at the skewing, people are bought, fanboys and stuff and Marvel is just tricking people into liking their movies." 

You know how Marvel and Disney have been tricking people into giving their movies good scores?  By MAKING GOOD MOVIES.  Civil War is no more pampered or babied than Ant Man or Avengers or Batman v Superman or Man of Steel or any other superhero movie.  It's not getting special treatment.  The fanboys come out for ALL the comic book movies. the haters come out for ALL the movies.  All of your arguments - Seriously, every single one of your arguments - could be directly and aggressively applied to any movie you like and it would still make just as much sense.  

We get it.  you don't like marvel movies.  You're entitled to that, but your aggressive campaign to smear them and convince other people of their inferiority MAKES YOU A FANBOY.  All this talk about bias and people being bought off, and the bottom line is simple: you are the biased one.  you are the fanboy.  you are the hater.  You are the very person you are rallying against.  

Cut that shit out. 

Or, you know, you could just accept that Batman v Superman sucked, Critics hated it, its subsequent weekends shiveled, people hated it, and it massively disappointed in virtually every way.  You need to accept that, for all the problems Marvel moves DO have, they are fun, they have porperly woven, interlacing narrative with compelling characters, and they mostly have engaging storylines.  They pulled something off, and even the bad ones are held aloft by being in such great company and being related to the other awesome movies.  

So you don't like it, that's fine.  the reality is that most other people DO like it, and if you got your head out of your ass and stopped rallying to stop others from enjoying what they enjoy, maybe you'd get some joy out of life, too! 

so just stop it.

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Lawlight said:

I think you don't know what eating crow means. The Marvel bias is clear for everyone to see - there's no need for conspiracy theories.

Yep.  totally biased.  Couldn't possibly be that the movies are good.  That's what it is.  I'm biased towards fun superhero movies. 



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Runa216 said:
Lawlight said:

I think you don't know what eating crow means. The Marvel bias is clear for everyone to see - there's no need for conspiracy theories.

Yep.  totally biased.  Couldn't possibly be that the movies are good.  That's what it is.  I'm biased towards fun superhero movies. 

Yeps, totally biased. Because, as I said before, that's the only way to explain how someone can recommend the Iron Man sequels or the Thor movies. Even Age of Ultron, there's no redeeming quality to that movie.



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Runa216 said:
Lawlight said:

Iron Man 2 should really not be a recommendation - no matter how much lower the score is to Civil War.

If you look at the reviews now, it's funny how there's suddenly 4 rotten reviews in the last 20 reviews compared to 1 in the previous 60 reviews.

That's not strange at all.  Toy Story 3 had like 200+ Reviews before it got a single negative one.  

Often times, the most extreme reviews of anything (Games, movies, TV shows) come after the fact.  

Honestly, you have GOT to look at yourself in the mirror through an objective lens or something.  you are hilariously delusional, twisting EVERYTHING to its breaking point in order to justify your ludicrous opinions about a movie.  "Oh, critics are bought!"....no more or less than VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER MOVIE IN EXISTENCE IN THE LAST THIRTY YEARS!  "Oh, it's only THIRD best opening day in Korea."  only third?  That's Still third!  "Look at the skewing, people are bought, fanboys and stuff and Marvel is just tricking people into liking their movies." 

You know how Marvel and Disney have been tricking people into giving their movies good scores?  By MAKING GOOD MOVIES.  Civil War is no more pampered or babied than Ant Man or Avengers or Batman v Superman or Man of Steel or any other superhero movie.  It's not getting special treatment.  The fanboys come out for ALL the comic book movies. the haters come out for ALL the movies.  All of your arguments - Seriously, every single one of your arguments - could be directly and aggressively applied to any movie you like and it would still make just as much sense.  

We get it.  you don't like marvel movies.  You're entitled to that, but your aggressive campaign to smear them and convince other people of their inferiority MAKES YOU A FANBOY.  All this talk about bias and people being bought off, and the bottom line is simple: you are the biased one.  you are the fanboy.  you are the hater.  You are the very person you are rallying against.  

Cut that shit out. 

Or, you know, you could just accept that Batman v Superman sucked, Critics hated it, its subsequent weekends shiveled, people hated it, and it massively disappointed in virtually every way.  You need to accept that, for all the problems Marvel moves DO have, they are fun, they have porperly woven, interlacing narrative with compelling characters, and they mostly have engaging storylines.  They pulled something off, and even the bad ones are held aloft by being in such great company and being related to the other awesome movies.  

So you don't like it, that's fine.  the reality is that most other people DO like it, and if you got your head out of your ass and stopped rallying to stop others from enjoying what they enjoy, maybe you'd get some joy out of life, too! 

so just stop it.  

No, some Marvel movies are quite good - like Ant-Man. Guardians is watchable even though it is extremely dumb. Avengers, the first one, has some good moments. But yeah, for the most part, they're just like the Transformers movies - not very ambitious, all very samey, no emotional weight.

I don't think Marvel has been tricking people into giving good scores - they just built an army of rabid fanboys and built good, working relationships with the media. If you start peering into the Marvel movies, there's so many things wrong with them.



Lawlight said:
Runa216 said:

Yep.  totally biased.  Couldn't possibly be that the movies are good.  That's what it is.  I'm biased towards fun superhero movies. 

Yeps, totally biased. Because, as I said before, that's the only way to explain how someone can recommend the Iron Man sequels or the Thor movies. Even Age of Ultron, there's no redeeming quality to that movie.

Wrong. 

See, you made an absolute statement, and only a sith deals in absolutes.  While They weren't perfect, you forget that all of those movies had heart, humor, action, and some engaging characters.  Even with Iron Man 2, tony stark was still a blast to be with.  They fucked up Whiplash, no doubt there, but it still had a lot of good scenes and character development. 

The same thing can be said for the third Iron Man movie, Both Thor movies, and especially age of ultron.  

Honestly, I don't understand why so many people dislike Age of Ultron.  I thought it was great.  Sure, it had some un-answered plot threads in regards to the Thor thing and a few others, but that's the nature of a shared universe.  The reason I forgive so many of the little things like that in the Marvel movies is that I know that Thor's magical pool may be answered in Ragnarok.  (and it ACTUALLY was answered in the Deleted scene, but we can all agree that doesn't officially count due to it not being in the theatrical release).  

Even the 'bad' Marvel movies (Incredible hulk, Iron Man 2) are still pretty damn good, and better than what DC has been putting out (sans The Dark Knight trilogy).

My point is simple:  These movies are fun and have plenty of redeeming factors.  I'm just waiting for one to disappoint me, and none in the MCU have so far.  

And you know I'm not a fanboy because I didn't like FantFourStic or either of the spider man movies.  X-Men have only started getting better after some really crummy middle movies.  The Dark Knight and Batman Begins are two of the best superhero movies of all time.   



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Lawlight said:

No, some Marvel movies are quite good - like Ant-Man. Guardians is watchable even though it is extremely dumb. Avengers, the first one, has some good moments. But yeah, for the most part, they're just like the Transformers movies - not very ambitious, all very samey, no emotional weight.

I don't think Marvel has been tricking people into giving good scores - they just built an army of rabid fanboys and built good, working relationships with the media. If you start peering into the Marvel movies, there's so many things wrong with them.

They have such a following BECAUSE they've been making movies that are good.  Trust me, if a movie is truly bad and people don't like it, they don't go to see it.  Transformers is dumb, sure, but it has pretty explosions and great special effects, so it's palatable for an international audience, and furthermore enjoyed by people who know, going in, that this is a movie they shut their brains off for. 

Marvel movies know what they are.  They are silly, whimsical, fantastical superhero movies with a lot of heart and humor and cleverly interlocked stories.  That's what they wanted to be, that's what the audience wants, that's what they deliver on.  That's why people are so willing to give a pass to Marvel, because even when they fail, at least it feels like they tried, and they care.  When we get Batman V Superman, it just feels like some soulless, boring, corporate idea of what some curmudgeonly old guy thinks is 'edgy'.  People don't go to see superman to be depressed, people see superman for hope.  People see Batman because he's cool and intelligent and mysterious, not because he's....okay, he was a great batman, I can't fault the BatFleck.  HE did fantastically. 

Point is, Marvel movies keep the spirit of the source material - flaws and leaps of logic included - whereas DC has been sucking the life from their own stories with crummy BS that nobody asked for, nobody wants, and nobody enjoys.  

THAT is why marvel gets a pass.  



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Lots of heated posts in this thread. Let's knock it off, guys. Constructive comparisons are good, gloating and trashing posts are not.

If you can't debate in a constructive manner, without personal shots or trashing others' personal opinions, then it's for the best that you stay out the discussion altogether.



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Super_Boom said:
Lots of heated posts in this thread. Let's knock it off, guys. Constructive comparisons are good, gloating and trashing posts are not.

If you can't debate in a constructive manner, without personal shots or trashing others' personal opinions, then it's for the best that you stay out the discussion altogether.

It's hilarious how much of a trigger the word 'fanboy' is.  "You can be rude, ignorant, nasty, racist, sexist, intolerant, and stupid...but don't you dare utter the F-word.  Fuck?  no, Fanboy!  Duh! worst insult you can offer." 

You can be a fanboy.  You can be an asshole.  you can be a bitch.  you can be a racist.  You can be a lot of things, but apparently it's worse to call someone those things than to actually be those things.  Hilarious misappropriation of judgement, and quite the inept way to deal justice.  But whatever, y'all can go right ahead and continue being as you are, I'll just be more sly in the future about not using the word fanboy while still using the definition of it to describe you, because apparently it's the word that hurts, not the accusation. 



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