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bigtakilla said:
zorg1000 said:

i never claimed they were?

"When it comes to female protagonists in games, that was something developers were genuinely afraid of back in the day. Because the vast majority of gamers were male back then, and they were afraid of losing sales simply because the protagiopnist was female."

did i write that?



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zorg1000 said:
bigtakilla said:

"When it comes to female protagonists in games, that was something developers were genuinely afraid of back in the day. Because the vast majority of gamers were male back then, and they were afraid of losing sales simply because the protagiopnist was female."

did i write that?

No, but you responded to my reply to it....



jardesonbarbosa said:
Female Link is cool. Link is just an avatar. You choose his name at the beginning of every game, for Myiamoto's sake. That's why he never talks, Link is supposed to be you. I hope they allow customization.

Contrary to even Nintendo's occasional assertions Link's more than just an avatar; he's one of Nintendo's biggest mascots. It's not a coincidence that throughout literally dozens of games he's had the same look, right down to the green tunic and weird cap, or that it's Link and not the titular Zelda who's used to represent the franchise in nearly every bit of marketing featuring the Zelda series in some way, including but not limited to things like Smash Bros.

Nintendo may or may not change that going forward, but it's inaccurate to say that Link is "just" an avatar.



noname2200 said:
jardesonbarbosa said:
Female Link is cool. Link is just an avatar. You choose his name at the beginning of every game, for Myiamoto's sake. That's why he never talks, Link is supposed to be you. I hope they allow customization.

Contrary to even Nintendo's occasional assertions Link's more than just an avatar; he's one of Nintendo's biggest mascots. It's not a coincidence that throughout literally dozens of games he's had the same look, right down to the green tunic and weird cap, or that it's Link and not the titular Zelda who's used to represent the franchise in nearly every bit of marketing featuring the Zelda series in some way, including but not limited to things like Smash Bros.

Nintendo may or may not change that going forward, but it's inaccurate to say that Link is "just" an avatar.

Exactly, there are also numerous cartoons (LoZ Cartoon, Captain N and the N Team), cereal boxes, manga, ect all establishing Link as a character as well. Let alone all of the games that flesh him out (OoT onward). If the only title that was out was the original LoZ then sure we could still think of Link as an avi, but it's a little late for that.



bigtakilla said:
zorg1000 said:

did i write that?

No, but you responded to my reply to it....

whats your point?

he said that many developers in the 80s were afraid that female leads would hurt sales.

You then pointed that Metroid & Zelda released in the same year.

i pointed out that your example was bad because Metroid sold much less.

im not trying to prove hes right, im just pointing out thst your example is a bad one.



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zorg1000 said:
bigtakilla said:

No, but you responded to my reply to it....

whats your point?

he said that many developers in the 80s were afraid that female leads would hurt sales.

You then pointed that Metroid & Zelda released in the same year.

i pointed out that your example was bad because Metroid sold much less.

im not trying to prove hes right, im just pointing out thst your example is a bad one.

Which has nothing to do with Samus being a female.



bigtakilla said:
zorg1000 said:

whats your point?

he said that many developers in the 80s were afraid that female leads would hurt sales.

You then pointed that Metroid & Zelda released in the same year.

i pointed out that your example was bad because Metroid sold much less.

im not trying to prove hes right, im just pointing out thst your example is a bad one.

Which has nothing to do with Samus being a female.

thats irrelevent, MY POINT IS THAT YOU USED A POOR EXAMPLE



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zorg1000 said:
bigtakilla said:

Which has nothing to do with Samus being a female.

thats irrelevent, MY POINT IS THAT YOU USED A POOR EXAMPLE

Not really.... Nintendo wasn't afraid to use a female protagonist because they had. Sales of two different series means nothing, as they are two different series.



zorg1000 said:
bigtakilla said:

No, but you responded to my reply to it....

whats your point?

he said that many developers in the 80s were afraid that female leads would hurt sales.

You then pointed that Metroid & Zelda released in the same year.

i pointed out that your example was bad because Metroid sold much less.

im not trying to prove hes right, im just pointing out thst your example is a bad one.

Tbh your reply doesn't make much sense because the post he replied to was suggesting Nintendo would have been reluctant to have a female lead in which case Metroid counters that argument fully because they're one of the first companies to have a female lead in one of their major franchises. The sales between the two franchises is irrelevant to what he was arguing.



Wyrdness said:
zorg1000 said:

whats your point?

he said that many developers in the 80s were afraid that female leads would hurt sales.

You then pointed that Metroid & Zelda released in the same year.

i pointed out that your example was bad because Metroid sold much less.

im not trying to prove hes right, im just pointing out thst your example is a bad one.

Tbh your reply doesn't make much sense because the post he replied to was suggesting Nintendo would have been reluctant to have a female lead in which case Metroid counters that argument fully because they're one of the first companies to have a female lead in one of their major franchises. The sales between the two franchises is irrelevant to what he was arguing.

the highlighted quote said many developers, that statement isnt targeting Nintendo specifically, it is speaking of the overall market at the time.

the statement is that many developers were afraid so he points out 1 out of hundreds of games from the time period that had a female lead, like that one game disproves that many people felt a certain way?

also the people behind Metroid & Zelda are different people. Miyamoto/Tezuka may have feared a female would impact sales, that doesnt mean that Yokoi/Sakamoto felt the same way.



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