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barneystinson69 on 04 April 2016
Illusion said:
Hating Muslims is the easy solution here but I do not believe it is the correct one. The real source of the problem here is Marxist socialism and the evils of political correctness that are not only compelling Europe to bring in countless numbers of military aged Muslim males (ie. clearly not refugees) but to actually place them above the law and censor any non-Muslims who dissent on the issue.

To the Americans on this thread, you may think that socialism is this nice concept where those who have more than they need are asked to support those who are without and discrimination is brought to an end but you are making a grave error that you can't see. You are forgetting completely about the institutions that will be redistributing this wealth and performing the social engineering to end discrimination. In a socialist society, those institutions are the government/media/ruling class and these form a power-hungry beast that is far scarier then any greedy corporation (at least a corporation generally can't raise an army against you). You are giving this beast all of this power and making it stronger and stronger and trusting that you can rely on it but as you are starting to see in Europe once a socialist government has enough power, the needs of the people start to become irrelevant. Opposition parties are criminally prosecuted, thought crimes are enforced by internet police, and protestors who oppose socialist ideals are marginalized or banned. Socialist governments inevitably will turn against their people because these governments cannot comprehend the concept that too much of themselves could be a bad thing.

Just ask anybody from Eastern Europe what they think about government and they will give you a chilling answer. Socialism is not your friend and it is a terrible economic and political system that will inevitably lead to horrible injustices like the one seen in this video.

I agree (at least with the immigration part). I'm not going to respond to anything else, as its not on topic, but immigration isn't the answer to your problems. Its there simply to lower wages within a country, and cause tention. I have no issue with muslims who integrate and respect western value's, but you can't just keep bringing them in and expecting them to integrate. If we really need immigrants, bring a few in, and that's it. Germany's stupid open gate policy started the refugee crisis, nothing else.



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Poliwrathlord on 04 April 2016
Goatseye said:

So to you, everyone that professes Islamic faith is against Western culture.

Can we say that a lot of VGC users here are against Western culture? Against videogame?

I'm not Muslim btw but if anyone here that is one, tell me why you're against Western values and videogames.

I'd say by and large that Islamic culture, and a lot of Muslims are against the west's values. Islam is anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-democracy, anti-freedom of speech, anti-west, anti-apostasy, and not very accepting of other cultures (unlike the West). Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East are like what I just described. With Salah Abdelsalam being born in Europe, I'd say that a lot of Muslims from Europe now hold the view I just stated.

With that being said, there is a minority of Muslims who are not against Western values. Most Muslims living in America are actually pro-west and actually hold our values, but that is a very small number of Muslims in regards to whole number of adherents of Islam.



barneystinson69 on 04 April 2016
Fei-Hung said:
barneystinson69 said:

No. What I'm saying is that I don't want their laws here. I don't give a crap its their law, its barbaric and doesn't belong here! They've tried plenty to get it into our country, even trying to make then immune from the laws of our country. http://www.theguardian.com/news/blog/2008/feb/08/sharialawincanadaalmost

 

Again with that, did you know most counties have a Sharia court and Sharia law? Do you know why? 

 

It's literally for internal complications of marriage, will and business between Muslim men and women. It doesn't apply to any non Muslim and it means and affects no one who isn't Muslim. 

 

It literally is to solve disputes. 

Exactly, I do not want that here. I don't care what they want, these laws are not compatible with the western world. If they don't like it, go back to the middle east! What do they expect, we allow them to follow their own laws? You're british, by all means you should have full knowledge on this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sharia-law-alive-well-uk-6957168



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Goatseye on 04 April 2016
Illusion said:
Hating Muslims is the easy solution here but I do not believe it is the correct one. The real source of the problem here is Marxist socialism and the evils of political correctness that are not only compelling Europe to bring in countless numbers of military aged Muslim males (ie. clearly not refugees) but to actually place them above the law and censor any non-Muslims who dissent on the issue.

To the Americans on this thread, you may think that socialism is this nice concept where those who have more than they need are asked to support those who are without and discrimination is brought to an end but you are making a grave error that you can't see. You are forgetting completely about the institutions that will be redistributing this wealth and performing the social engineering to end discrimination. In a socialist society, those institutions are the government/media/ruling class and these form a power-hungry beast that is far scarier then any greedy corporation (at least a corporation generally can't raise an army against you). You are giving this beast all of this power and making it stronger and stronger and trusting that you can rely on it but as you are starting to see in Europe once a socialist government has enough power, the needs of the people start to become irrelevant. Opposition parties are criminally prosecuted, thought crimes are enforced by internet police, and protestors who oppose socialist ideals are marginalized or banned. Socialist governments inevitably will turn against their people because these governments cannot comprehend the concept that too much of themselves could be a bad thing.

Just ask anybody from Eastern Europe what they think about government and they will give you a chilling answer. Socialism is not your friend and it is a terrible economic and political system that will inevitably lead to horrible injustices like the one seen in this video.

Is this a movie script?



barneystinson69 on 04 April 2016
Ka-pi96 said:
Fei-Hung said:

Again with that, did you know most counties have a Sharia court and Sharia law? Do you know why? 

It's literally for internal complications of marriage, will and business between Muslim men and women. It doesn't apply to any non Muslim and it means and affects no one who isn't Muslim. 

It literally is to solve disputes. 

Doesn't sharia law also suggest executing those that don't want to be muslim any more or something like that?

Being gay is illegal, and means you could be stoned. Killing infedel's also allowed. A women who is beaten is punished just as much as the person who beat her, ect.



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Fei-Hung on 04 April 2016
Ka-pi96 said:
Fei-Hung said:

Again with that, did you know most counties have a Sharia court and Sharia law? Do you know why? 

It's literally for internal complications of marriage, will and business between Muslim men and women. It doesn't apply to any non Muslim and it means and affects no one who isn't Muslim. 

It literally is to solve disputes. 

Doesn't sharia law also suggest executing those that don't want to be muslim any more or something like that?

 

No. That's not Sharia law, that's cultural between tribes.



barneystinson69 on 04 April 2016

Alright, I've had enough of this discussion. 2 hours and passing, I think its time I drop out. Got to go to bed early today, so I guess I'm out.



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Fei-Hung on 04 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Doesn't sharia law also suggest executing those that don't want to be muslim any more or something like that?

Being gay is illegal, and means you could be stoned. Killing infedel's also allowed. A women who is beaten is punished just as much as the person who beat her, ect.

 

That's how dumb you are. That is not Sharia law. That's individuals making rules and laws in their country. It has nothing to do with Sharia law. 



barneystinson69 on 04 April 2016
Fei-Hung said:
barneystinson69 said:

Being gay is illegal, and means you could be stoned. Killing infedel's also allowed. A women who is beaten is punished just as much as the person who beat her, ect.

 

That's how dumb you are. That is not Sharia law. That's individuals making rules and laws in their country. It has nothing to do with Sharia law. 

Then why does it happen throughout the middle east? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

Its certainly "allowed" by sharia law. But I'm sure I'm just dumb now...



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Illusion on 04 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:
                                         

I agree (at least with the immigration part). I'm not going to respond to anything else, as its not on topic, but immigration isn't the answer to your problems. Its there simply to lower wages within a country, and cause tention. I have no issue with muslims who integrate and respect western value's, but you can't just keep bringing them in and expecting them to integrate. If we really need immigrants, bring a few in, and that's it. Germany's stupid open gate policy started the refugee crisis, nothing else.

I have to respectfully disagree with you about my post not being on topic.  If we want to get to the true source of the problem in the video then I believe my post is the yoke of it.  All people are doing is addressing the symptoms of the problem (ie. the Muslims) but we're beating around the bush on what has enabled our leaders to become so deaf to the needs of the people in the first place.  We didn't get to this dire state from just a couple of bad decisions by Merkel: Europeans have been enabling this by giving governments more and more power over their lives for the past 50 years.  If you want to stop these migrant rapes and abuses then your real enemy are the socialist governments who are enabling it but be prepared for one nasty fight because these governments will turn against people like you and me before they even think about changing their policies.  We will basically need an uprising of the silent majority and a complete overhaul of western political systems before we can even start to address the Muslim problem.