Religion of Peace right?
"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius
Religion of Peace right?
"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius
| Peh said: I hope you can backup your claims. Otherwise you spew bullshit. So, I'll wait for your sources, because I just don't want to waste my time with everyone who likes to spreat his ignorant view on others. Refuting every stupid claim you make just takes too much time and the result of it is, that you still won't change your opinion. But hey... why not chew on thís while trying to back up your claim: http://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says Maybe I should post more? But the burden of proof is not on me ... :) |
*Looks at the country of interest in the link*
*Looks at the country of interest in the OP*
Why not site studies that take place in Europe since... you know, they'll present a more accurate picture of what's going on in Europe? Using statistics from the US to claim that immigrants aren't overrepresented in European crimes is laughable. You also failed to point out the fact that the distribution of different types of immigrants in the US vs. Europe is drastically different. How convenient of you to leave out that tidbit. But hey, at least you proved that Mexicans aren't rapists, though that is not what the topic is about, is it?
Studies that are actually relevent to the discussion are in the video's description. And you're welcome, Slimebeast 
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Holyshit! USA is full of immigrants, and I'm from NYC. Should I be fucking scared and panicking out of my mind too? ::rolls eyes::
Most of the crimes here is commited by the citizens. it takes just one bad apple from another region to blow up nationwide, and it's the same deal for bad cops that shoot and kill unarmed suspects to blow up in the news, meanwhile no one cares about the good cops that do the right things.
some of you people...smh
On Topic:
I hope those two kids can recover from this.

Aura7541 said:
*Looks at the country of interest in the link* Why not site studies that take place in Europe since... you know, they'll present a more accurate picture of what's going on in Europe? Using statistics from the US to claim that immigrants aren't overrepresented in European crimes is laughable. You also failed to point out the fact that the distribution of different types of immigrants in the US vs. Europe is drastically different. How convenient of you to leave out that tidbit. But hey, at least you proved that Mexicans aren't rapists, though that is not what the topic is about, is it?
Studies that are actually relevent to the discussion are in the video's description. And you're welcome, Slimebeast |
Oh right... must missed that bit of all the plain generalization going on here, my bad. But it seems you also missed the part where I said, I don't have to provide the proof. Just make a note there :)
But thanks for participating. So let's see what you contribute to this thoughtful discussion.A video? Aha... of some random guy... Ok. Hm.. sources which are in swedish. I don't understand swedish. What else do we got..
A link about "Gender Inequity Norms Are Associated with Increased Male-Perpetrated Rape and Sexual Risks for HIV Infection in Botswana and Swaziland"
O... k?
More swedish stuff...
Something about Kenya.
more swedish stuff....
Ok.. I'm done... You, Sir, really showed how to shut me up..... not. Sorry.. but what the hell is this? Coming into the discussion.. swinging your sabers and providing nothing at all. Thanks for showing who the laughable one is.
But ok.. I'll just take the easy way out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime#Europe
"The issue of immigration-related crime plays an important role in the political debate in European countries.[51] A 2015 study found that the increase in immigration flows into western European countries that took place in the 2000s did "not affect crime victimization, but it is associated with an increase in the fear of crime, the latter being consistently and positively correlated with the natives’ unfavourable attitude toward immigrants."["
I'll just wanted to go for something that is not on wiki and in english, but that is difficult to find.. .so...
You can read through the english one.. but Hey.. like you provided me a source in a foreign language then I will do the same :
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ausl%C3%A4nderkriminalit%C3%A4t
„Es gibt heute keinen ernstzunehmenden Zweifel mehr, dass die Merkmale „Staatsangehörigkeit“ oder „Ethnie“ für die Erklärung von Kriminalität bedeutungslos sind. Dies gilt natürlich auch für den Begriff des „Ausländers“, der „sich aus der Differenz zwischen der Staatsangehörigkeit eines Individuums und seinem momentanen geographischen Standort ergibt. Für die Annahme, dass dies eine Ursache für Kriminalität sein sollte, existiert kein einziger triftiger Grund.“[6]
Take this and run it through the translator. ...
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| Ruler said:
Delbrück - immigrants from Afghanistan commit sexual offense in Delbrücker indoor pool to a 14-year-old boy
Public office press statement the prosecutor Paderborn and the District Police PaderbornDelbrück (North Rhine Westphalia) - On Friday afternoon, a teenager was forced in Delbrücker swimming pool by two men to perform sexual acts. The 14-year-old boy and a 11-year-old friend were initially only addressed and observed during normal operation swimming in the pool by two adults. As the two boys visited the showers and changing rooms at 16:45, the two men followed them there. The 11-year-old could hide, the 14-year-old boy was captured in the dressing rooms. Against his will sexual acts with both men were performed. After the deed, the two boys told it to the lifeguards and who alarmed automatically the police. Both suspects, in which there is a 25-year-old and a 20-year-old immigrant from Afghanistan could be arrested by the police at the indoor pool. They were brought before a judge on Saturday at the request of the prosecutor Paderborn, who ordered the detention against the two accused.
OTS: Police Paderborn
03.04.2016
Footage shot on Sunday in German town of Delbruek, showing the swimming pool where a 14-year-old was allegedly abused by two Afghan refugees on Friday. The matter has been passed on to the police who have now launched an investigation.
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Interesting. Oh, but it must be white people's fault, as we're the criminals! We commit more crimes in OUR countries than immigrants, even though there are far more of us. This isn't concerning at all, one bit. Says the PC...
This is concerning. We're seeing more immigrant crime in our countries, yet we should coin it as "ok". We're seeing immigrants becoming more demanding, demanding reinstatement of their laws, trying to trick us into believing they're innocent, using terms such as "islamaphobe" or "racist" or "bigot", ect. Absolutely saddening. Whenever a white person commits a crime against a coloured person, we're called "facists" and "bigots" and just scared of "multiculturalism". Yet when muslims commit crimes, the left leaning people come into defence mode, demanding we don't speak out...
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OdinHades said:
Here's the thing though: Most immigrants don't do stuff like that. I don't have any exact numbers, but let's say there were 100 cases of rape by immigrants. If we have indeed 1 million refugees in europe, then that's a whopping 0.01 % of rapists among them. According to Statista that's about the exact same rate as in the german population. |
You're making up statistics though! Immigrants are more likely to commit crimes then native citizens to their country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime#Germany
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barneystinson69 said:
You're making up statistics though! Immigrants are more likely to commit crimes then native citizens to their country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime#Germany |
And you are interpretating it wrong.
Committing a crime != more likely to commit a crime.
Also as stated in the link you used for your argument: "the latter being consistently and positively correlated with the natives’ unfavourable attitude toward immigrants."[
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barneystinson69 said:
You're making up statistics though! Immigrants are more likely to commit crimes then native citizens to their country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime#Germany |
Even if the majority of immigrants don't commit crimes, because groups are never equally distributed in any country, the per capita (usually per 100,000 people) statistic is the one we should look at. For instance, if migrants make up only 1% of a country's population, but represent 25% of rapists, then they have a greater amount of rapists per capita even though 25% is not the majority.
| Peh said: And you are interpretating it wrong. Committing a crime != more likely to commit a crime. Also as stated in the link you used for your argument: "the latter being consistently and positively correlated with the natives’ unfavourable attitude toward immigrants."[ |
Correlation =/= Causation
| Aura7541 said: Even if the majority of immigrants don't commit crimes, because groups are never equally distributed in any country, the per capita (usually per 100,000 people) statistic is the one we should look at. For instance, if migrants make up only 1% of a country's population, but represent 25% of rapists, then they have a greater amount of rapists per capita even though 25% is not the majority. |
Your math don't add up here in America, especially not in NYC where it is immigrant majority. I'm pretty sure the crime rate in Germany is more or less the same too.
Like I said before, it takes less than 1% to cause people to lose their minds.. Forget about ebola, immigrants is the new rage right.

Peh said:
I hope you can backup your claims. Otherwise you spew bullshit. So, I'll wait for your sources, because I just don't want to waste my time with everyone who likes to spreat his ignorant view on others. Refuting every stupid claim you make just takes too much time and the result of it is, that you still won't change your opinion.
But hey... why not chew on thís while trying to back up your claim: http://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says
Maybe I should post more? But the burden of proof is not on me ... :) |
As if you would change your opinion on the matter if I could prove that my claim is correct, namely that in countries like Sweden, Norway, Finland and Germany, immigrants from outside of Europe commit 5-10 times more violent crime than natives.
To clarify, I mean violent crime as in robbery, assault, rape and murder.