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mountaindewslave on 03 April 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
OneKartVita said:

yeah i didn't sound clear. i agree that x1 will sell more software so when we say who did better we say x1 beat the 3ds. 

my question was, who did better reletively. is it a success for the 3ds that it will stay ahead of the x1 for so long and a failure for the x1 to take so long to pass it. Or is it the opposite and it's a good achievement for the x1 to pass it when it will and a failure on the 3ds part to not hold out longer or maybe even outsell it completely. 

stupid question by me but that's what i was asking. 

Well the achievment for X1 is its still moving a lot of software. A respectable amount for its userbase and core audience (core platforms move more software). With proper support it could move 500-600 million physical units. Not even counting digital.

3DS is a success but also an example of how the mobile console market is losing relevance. So in a nutshell, X1 is in a more desireable position. X1 may move more physical software than 3DS, Wii U, and Vita combined.

historically speaking though NO handheld consoles (regardless of parent company) tend to have high attach rates in terms of software pushed per console sold. at least compared with home consoles



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AlfredoTurkey on 03 April 2016
ArchangelMadzz said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

If we're going to lump all gaming devices foolishly into one, then ios and android owns them all. PS4 or 3DS... neither of them come close to software Apples game sales.

 

We're not lumping them all onto one we're talking about sales that vgchartz actually track because that's the site we're all on. PS4 has already taken over 3ds if you count digital sales but they aren't tracked here.

Yeah but what are we "celebrating"? A win ONLY on VGchartz? Seems sort of pointless when we all know two other gaming platformers have much, much higher sales. I don't get it.



OneKartVita on 03 April 2016
AlfredoTurkey said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

 

We're not lumping them all onto one we're talking about sales that vgchartz actually track because that's the site we're all on. PS4 has already taken over 3ds if you count digital sales but they aren't tracked here.

Yeah but what are we "celebrating"? A win ONLY on VGchartz? Seems sort of pointless when we all know two other gaming platformers have much, much higher sales. I don't get it.

It's the king of console software.  As fans of consoles we're happy.  



Jranation on 04 April 2016
kurasakiichimaruALT said:
Such a big disconnect from DS to 3DS software sales. Is 3DS widely pirateable at this point of time like PSP and DS?

DS: 150mil+

3DS: 59mil+

 

User base is probably a big reason for it. 



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Jranation on 04 April 2016
AlfredoTurkey said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

 

We're not lumping them all onto one we're talking about sales that vgchartz actually track because that's the site we're all on. PS4 has already taken over 3ds if you count digital sales but they aren't tracked here.

Yeah but what are we "celebrating"? A win ONLY on VGchartz? Seems sort of pointless when we all know two other gaming platformers have much, much higher sales. I don't get it.

 

You don't know? Here on Vgchartz every time their fave console beats something on another console, we shall celebrate!!!!!!! 

 

Just like how I did with the 3DS beating the PSP in Japan! 



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AlfredoTurkey on 04 April 2016
OneKartVita said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Yeah but what are we "celebrating"? A win ONLY on VGchartz? Seems sort of pointless when we all know two other gaming platformers have much, much higher sales. I don't get it.

It's the king of console software.  As fans of consoles we're happy.  

If 3DS is a console, so is an iPhone. There AREN'T any more "dedicated" consoles. They're all multipurpose computers that allow for a multitude of things. The iPhone can do more things, but exactly how does that mean it isn't a "console"? Is there some magic limit of things a machine can do that pushes it out of the "console" discussion?

Not even ten years ago, no one online ever lumped handhelds and consoles together. Now, it seems the younger ones want to do that for some reason... which is fine. But if you're going to do that, you can't leave out smart phones which are every bit the gaming machine that a handheld is and more. If a 3DS is now considred a "console" like the PS4, then so is the iPhone.



AlfredoTurkey on 04 April 2016
Jranation said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Yeah but what are we "celebrating"? A win ONLY on VGchartz? Seems sort of pointless when we all know two other gaming platformers have much, much higher sales. I don't get it.

 

You don't know? Here on Vgchartz every time their fave console beats something on another console, we shall celebrate!!!!!!! 

 

Just like how I did with the 3DS beating the PSP in Japan! 

Yeah but 3DS vs another handheld is apples to apples lol



OneKartVita on 04 April 2016
AlfredoTurkey said:
OneKartVita said:

It's the king of console software.  As fans of consoles we're happy.  

If 3DS is a console, so is an iPhone. There AREN'T any more "dedicated" consoles. They're all multipurpose computers that allow for a multitude of things. The iPhone can do more things, but exactly how does that mean it isn't a "console"? Is there some magic limit of things a machine can do that pushes it out of the "console" discussion?

Not even ten years ago, no one online ever lumped handhelds and consoles together. Now, it seems the younger ones want to do that for some reason... which is fine. But if you're going to do that, you can't leave out smart phones which are every bit the gaming machine that a handheld is and more. If a 3DS is now considred a "console" like the PS4, then so is the iPhone.

IPhones are primarily phones,  communication and Internet devices.  Vita and 3DS are primarily gaming devices.  That's the difference.  People don't buy iPhones to game, just like they don't buy a Vita to use it as a Web browsing device. 

 

Ridiculous argument. I'm going to celebrate this Playstation victory and savour it.  and I feel justified too. 



OneKartVita on 04 April 2016
Jranation said:
kurasakiichimaruALT said:
Such a big disconnect from DS to 3DS software sales. Is 3DS widely pirateable at this point of time like PSP and DS?

DS: 150mil+

3DS: 59mil+

 

User base is probably a big reason for it. 

Pretty major decline.  Especially when mobile is a lot more dominant now then it was when the 3DS launched.  Add to that the PSP going from 80+ million to the vita which will be less than 20m most likely.  

 

60m decline for psp and probably 80m decline for DS. Do you see the next generation of dedicated handheld market declining again?  

 

Vita will get no successor so that's a 20m market decline straight away.  How much less than 70m will the NX handheld sell.  My guess is 20-30m leaving the generation decline around 50m. Are you more optimistic?



AlfredoTurkey on 04 April 2016
OneKartVita said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

If 3DS is a console, so is an iPhone. There AREN'T any more "dedicated" consoles. They're all multipurpose computers that allow for a multitude of things. The iPhone can do more things, but exactly how does that mean it isn't a "console"? Is there some magic limit of things a machine can do that pushes it out of the "console" discussion?

Not even ten years ago, no one online ever lumped handhelds and consoles together. Now, it seems the younger ones want to do that for some reason... which is fine. But if you're going to do that, you can't leave out smart phones which are every bit the gaming machine that a handheld is and more. If a 3DS is now considred a "console" like the PS4, then so is the iPhone.

IPhones are primarily phones,  communication and Internet devices.  Vita and 3DS are primarily gaming devices.  That's the difference.  People don't buy iPhones to game, just like they don't buy a Vita to use it as a Web browsing device. 

 

Ridiculous argument. I'm going to celebrate this Playstation victory and savour it.  and I feel justified too. 

People buy iPhones for many reasons and gaming is one of them. They're a gaming platform, period. I don't want to be a dick and "take something away" from you or piss on your parade. I know how that feels. But I also know PS4 is not the number one gaming platform for sales by a large, large... REALLY large margin. 

I won't bother arguing it anymore though as I feel I'm derailing your thread. I'm sorry about that.