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Forums - Sony - Rumor: New PS4k/PS4.5 leak via NeoGAF - GPU twice as powerful, dev kits already in developers' hands, $399-$499

poklane said:
binary solo said:
As long as all games are playable on the original model I don't have any concerns. But there is no way I am buying an upgraded system even if most new games are only playable on PS4K.

Exactly. As long as all games still release and look and run fine on my PS4 I don't see the problem with the PS4K from a PS4 owner's perspective

GribbleGrunger said:
The leak could hurt Sony. The leaker describe it as 'considerable sacrifices to performance' on the PS4 but it's not really. It's an 'improved performance for PS4K owners.' This is taking a positive and presenting it in a negative way. I'm worried about this now because the media are going to run with that ONE sentence.

Yeah, if media are gonna talk about the PS4k and PS4 like that Sony has a lot of problems.

There is a big problem : THey woulkd make less effort to optimise the game on the basic PS4, imagine games less impressive on your PS4 than they could be because more time is invested in the new PS4 ? It's very likely thats what will happen...



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I wonder if this is true, not everything from GAF is true. E3 is going to be interesting. Media will be all over it and if Sony doesn't respond now that this is fake, it's very likely to happen.



Aerys said:

There is a big problem : THey woulkd make less effort to optimise the game on the basic PS4, imagine games less impressive on your PS4 than they could be because more time is invested in the new PS4 ? It's very likely thats what will happen...

If anything it will be the other way around due to the normal PS4's fastly superior install base. Obviously Sony developers will take full advantage of the PS4K to push its sales, but for 3rd party developers neglecting normal PS4 owners will only hurt them.



And this might be where Sony might loose all the credits they build up so far this gen. Not supporting this at all.



Aerys said:
poklane said:

Exactly. As long as all games still release and look and run fine on my PS4 I don't see the problem with the PS4K from a PS4 owner's perspective

Yeah, if media are gonna talk about the PS4k and PS4 like that Sony has a lot of problems.

There is a big problem : THey woulkd make less effort to optimise the game on the basic PS4, imagine games less impressive on your PS4 than they could be because more time is invested in the new PS4 ? It's very likely thats what will happen...

You mean how they make less effort to optimize PS4 games because a handful of PC gamers have powerful rigs?

You are completely overreacting. There will be 45-50 Million Gen 1/2 (1200) PS4s in homes by the time this launches, and they are planning to continue selling the regular PS4 at a cheaper price. The regular PS4 will still be the overwhelming majority of PS4 hardware, and so, developers will not neglect it.



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Chazore said:
JEMC said:
Twice the GPU power is not enough to run games at 4K.

That and the CPU makes me wonder exactly what hardware they are throwing into it, all we hear is "twice", no model or brand to let us know exactly what it's supposed to be pushing. The price point also suggests that it won't be pushing a lot, either that or Sony is willing to spend another gen making losses on expensive hardware.

Upscaled to 4k still isn't as good as native 4k though.

Brand is easy, it will be AMD because they can't throw an Nvidia card with its very different architecture.



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JEMC said:

Brand is easy, it will be AMD because they can't throw an Nvidia card with its very different architecture.

I guess that would be a given by now.



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Still don't believe it until it is confirmed.



"It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance."

This is the part that concerns me. If current adopters suffer to sell this little upgrade. I remain extremely skeptical about all of this though and would have to see it before I believe it. Sony's played it smart so far this gen.



Aerys said:

There is a big problem : THey woulkd make less effort to optimise the game on the basic PS4, imagine games less impressive on your PS4 than they could be because more time is invested in the new PS4 ? It's very likely thats what will happen...

Yep, Sony need to send a copy of UC4 to every single developer and tell then that quality is what they expect from every PS4 game. Then when the PS4K releases, people with PS4s won't be so annoyed. It's an upgrade, not a downgrade ... but it's too late IMO. Sony never had time to put their messaging together, the messaging has been put together by the leakers.



 

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