Affleck just wasn't "heroic" enough, though some of that might be due to BvS' shoddy script.
Affleck just wasn't "heroic" enough, though some of that might be due to BvS' shoddy script.
Kevin Conroy, on the grounds that his voice has defined the way we think of the Caped Crusader (other than Bale's cringe-worthy Batman voice, ughh).
In terms of live-action, I haven't seen BvS yet, but I'll assume that Affleck's Batman is top notch.
bet: lost
| Soundwave said: Affleck just wasn't "heroic" enough, though some of that might be due to BvS' shoddy script. |
He saved at least 20 persons in the movie, if that's not being heroic, i dont know what it is.
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Adam West
Kevin Conroy
Probably Ben Affleck
And from there it's irrelevant.
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Aerys said:
He saved at least 20 persons in the movie, if that's not being heroic, i dont know what it is. |
Doesn't he burn a bat-insgnia into a criminal's chest so that he'll get raped and/or killed in prison?
Look I like a darker iteration of Batman as much as the next guy, but this is just flat out not the character at all.
The Bale version embodied heroism moreso while still being dark, "It's not who I am, but what I do that defines me", etc. etc. etc.
Also just randomly shooting at people with a gun ... ugh. Is this supposed to be Batman or Rambo?
Bruce Wayne is the best Batman
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Soundwave said:
Doesn't he burn a bat-insgnia into a criminal's chest so that he'll get raped and/or killed in prison? Look I like a darker iteration of Batman as much as the next guy, but this is just flat out not the character at all. The Bale version embodied heroism moreso while still being dark, "It's not who I am, but what I do that defines me", etc. etc. etc. |
And that's enough to call script shoddy ? Seriously ?
It wouldnt be the first dark version of Batman, nothing schoking compared to some comics, so it's factually wrong to say it's not the character at all because you dont like this version of Batman, there are several versions of Batman, he changes, evolves, makes mistakes depending on his experiences, just like the Bale version, there would be a lot to tell about the Batman in the last Nolan movie, so many wrong things.
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Aerys said:
And that's enough to call script shoddy ? Seriously ? It wouldnt be the first dark version of Batman, nothing schoking compared to some comics, so it's factually wrong to say it's not the character at all because you dont like this version of Batman, there are several versions of Batman, he changes, evolves, makes mistakes depending on his experiences, just like the Bale version, there would be a lot to tell about the Batman in the last Nolan movie. |
Yes I would say not understanding one of your lead characters is "shoddy" scriptwriting. Honestly it gets a lot wrong about Superman too.
This isn't the first "dark" version of Batman, lol, Hollywood has been doing dark Batman since 1989 and profiting handsomely off it.
This is the first psychotic mass murdering, gun totting Batman though. I don't see that as neccessarily true to the character at all though.
In this movie if Clark's mother was named anything but Martha, he wouldn't been blugdeoned to death with a freaking dirty bathroom sink by Batman, lol. Even in the Dark Knight Returns comic, Batman is never that much of a murdering nut job (he fights Superman but uses a low does of Kyrptonite to teach Superman a lesson to stay out of his way, but never intends to murder him).
If this is the "best" Batman, then IMO a lot of people don't understand this character at all.
Soundwave said:
Yes I would say not understanding one of your lead characters is "shoddy" scriptwriting. Honestly it gets a lot wrong about Superman too. This isn't the first "dark" version of Batman, lol, Hollywood has been doing dark Batman since 1989 and profiting handsomely off it. This is the first psychotic mass murdering, gun totting Batman though. I don't see that as neccessarily true to the character at all though. In this movie if Clark's mother was named anything but Martha, he wouldn't been blugdeoned to death with a freaking dirty bathroom sink by Batman, lol. Even in the Dark Knight Returns comic, Batman is never that much of a murdering nut job (he fights Superman but uses a low does of Kyrptonite to teach Superman a lesson to stay out of his way, but never intends to murder him). If this is the "best" Batman, then IMO a lot of people don't understand this character at all. |
Except they understand the lead character so you cant say it's shoddy, to bash this version of Batman is not understanding the character, not knowing all it's iterations.
You clearly didnt read a lot of comics , it's simply not true. It seems like a lot of people you didnt understand all the movie and believe what happens in his dream is the reality. But it's not, it's just a dream.
And like i said, it's a lie to say Batman is a mass murderer in this movie compared to other batman movies, he kills less people than Bale in Nolan's movies, and even less than previous batmans.
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