TheMessiah said:
GribbleGrunger said:
How can it be a reaction to what MS have said when:
a/ It's a rumour and Sony have said nothing
b/ Sony mentioned it last year as a possibility
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My apologies if Sony said about upgradeable hardware every 3 years or so. I honestly wasn't aware. I'm speculating on the knee jerk reaction, but I heard no rumours about an upgradeable PS4 until 1 month after MS official announcement. In all honesty alot of different people are saying its a true rumour. Many sources. If Sony do this, but fail to increase ram etc like Xbox version 2 they may hurt the PS4 image. Especially if its more expensive than the current model but doesn't increase power like Xbox version 2.
I'm expecting a 12gb DDR4, 128 Mb Edram, 2x better gpu and overcooked CPU for Xbox Version 2 to be announced before the years out. MS have clearly been researching this for over a year now. And confident enough to announce their plans last month. I also think this is why MS haven't spoken about VR. I believe they will work with Oculus on version 2. Meaning Sony spent loads of money on R&D, where MS wont have. And Oculus Rift will have PC and Xbox One for gamers to enjoy. I really believe Sony should have gone with Oculus to. And waited till either PS5 or copy MS and release new versions every 3 years.
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Wow so much speculation/fantasy right there...
Almost don't know where to begin:
12gb DDR4 -> the xbone uses ddr3 so switching to ddr4 is pretty much out of the question without a complete motherborard redesign along with new northbridge/southbridge chips. Also they would lose double data rate making the memory alot slower as 12gb is not a power of 2. Note: It cost MS over $1 billion USD to redesign the Xbox 360 from 256mb ddr2 to just 512mb ddr2. Not going to happen realistically.
128 Mb Edram -> Would require a complete redesgn of the xbone's APU. Not to mention that the xbone's 32 MB esram is the single most expensive part driving up the cost of manufacturing the box, So increasing the esram size to 128mb would be pretty much impossible from an ecomonic standpoint, and the performance benefits from doing so would pretty much nil. Also note that the esram makes up nearly 50% of the xbone's apu die size, one of the reasons for the xbone's large cooling fan, making it so large. If they throw in esram 4x the size, even with process shrinking, that would result in a even larger die size with even lower yield rates. The xbone's APU is known to have below industry standard yield rates specifically because of the esram being thrown in so increasing the esram would be a crazy design decision to do.
2x Better gpu -> Again would require a complete redesign of the APU. How would you double the gpu terraflops and also 4x the esram without exponentially increasing the APU die size and along with that the heat generated, power required, and lowering the yield. Heck this would also require updating the PSU design as well. You also ignore the fact that industry has not kept up with moore's law so all of this would be impossible. With all that additional heat generated they would need a liquid cooling solution, far too expensive.
overclocked CPU -> This is the only thing that is sort of possible had they not already overclocked the APU in the first place. You can't just overclock the cpu by itself, since its a APU package you have to also overclock the GPU and memory controller as well. They've already done this in attempt to reduce PS4's performance lead but it has proved to be not very efficient as doing so increased the power consumption and heat generated, why they needed such a large cooling system. So doing this again would probloble not be done.
So all of this is done in a years time and is announced before the end of the year. I think not. Not unless you expect to pay $1200 for an Xbox.
Also this assertion that Playstation is copying MS needs to stop as the facts and history do not support that at all.
