From a trusted GAF insider. Taking the mick?
Originally Posted by Zoetis
4k on ps4 looks real nice.
When asked if he meant Blu-ray:
Originally Posted by Zoetis
if this is a movie forum then yes blu ray
A mod has now asked him to stop teasing and PM him.
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elektranine said:
Wow so much speculation/fantasy right there... Almost don't know where to begin: 12gb DDR4 -> the xbone uses ddr3 so switching to ddr4 is pretty much out of the question without a complete motherborard redesign along with new northbridge/southbridge chips. Also they would lose double data rate making the memory alot slower as 12gb is not a power of 2. Note: It cost MS over $1 billion USD to redesign the Xbox 360 from 256mb ddr2 to just 512mb ddr2. Not going to happen realistically. 128 Mb Edram -> Would require a complete redesgn of the xbone's APU. Not to mention that the xbone's 32 MB esram is the single most expensive part driving up the cost of manufacturing the box, So increasing the esram size to 128mb would be pretty much impossible from an ecomonic standpoint, and the performance benefits from doing so would pretty much nil. Also note that the esram makes up nearly 50% of the xbone's apu die size, one of the reasons for the xbone's large cooling fan, making it so large. If they throw in esram 4x the size, even with process shrinking, that would result in a even larger die size with even lower yield rates. The xbone's APU is known to have below industry standard yield rates specifically because of the esram being thrown in so increasing the esram would be a crazy design decision to do. 2x Better gpu -> Again would require a complete redesign of the APU. How would you double the gpu terraflops and also 4x the esram without exponentially increasing the APU die size and along with that the heat generated, power required, and lowering the yield. Heck this would also require updating the PSU design as well. You also ignore the fact that industry has not kept up with moore's law so all of this would be impossible. With all that additional heat generated they would need a liquid cooling solution, far too expensive. overclocked CPU -> This is the only thing that is sort of possible had they not already overclocked the APU in the first place. You can't just overclock the cpu by itself, since its a APU package you have to also overclock the GPU and memory controller as well. They've already done this in attempt to reduce PS4's performance lead but it has proved to be not very efficient as doing so increased the power consumption and heat generated, why they needed such a large cooling system. So doing this again would probloble not be done. So all of this is done in a years time and is announced before the end of the year. I think not. Not unless you expect to pay $1200 for an Xbox.
Also this assertion that Playstation is copying MS needs to stop as the facts and history do not support that at all. |
Already discussed the copying thing. That's over.
As for the rest of your post. Yes it is my own speculation. Phil Spencer was the one that announced they are looking at Upgradeable Xbox rather than a big upgrade every 7 years. Also he pointed to the Phone market in this regard. So by my speculation I would guess at something like every 3 years. So 2016 as I said above. then 2019 maybe 16 gb ram, 2 x generational gpu over the 2016 model, a newer CPU rather than just overcooking. Etc.
That was their words. And I guarantee it wont be anywhere over £399. They made it clear they wanted smaller upgrades more frequent as opposed to 1 big one every start of gen. With games scaling up or down in visuals depending on which version you have. He also made it very clear they would not do add on hardware as upgrades. So with all said and done I think my 3 years guess would be about right.
| GribbleGrunger said: From a trusted GAF insider. Taking the mick? When asked if he meant Blu-ray:
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Not saying that you should or should not believe in the poster, but Neogaf has their fair share of attention seeking posters who take advantage of the sites credibility and spew rumours for fun. In the recent NX controller leak thread, a well known user posted in ASCII code letters saying the controller shouldn't have been shown, knowing that people would quote him and expand the discussion even further before a mod called out on him as well and told him to stop teasing everyone. And the controller ended up being fake anyway lol
So when this winds up being fake, you will pray for a scam as classy as the Nx controller.
t3mporary_126 said:
Not saying that you should or should not believe in the poster, but Neogaf has their fair share of attention seeking posters who take advantage of the sites credibility and spew rumours for fun. In the recent NX controller leak thread, a well known user posted in ASCII code letters saying the controller shouldn't have been shown, knowing that people would quote him and expand the discussion even further before a mod called out on him as well and told him to stop teasing everyone. And the controller ended up being fake anyway lol |
Zoetis is a legitimate source. What we need to know is if he was just messing about or not.
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| twintail said: As long as user base is not split its all good |
this.
It would be a really bad move by Sony to split the userbase while in such a strong position. Its not like with the expansion pack with the N64 where you just get a little accessory to add some power. We are a new console. Hopefully its a case where DEVs are required to make the games specifically for the PS4, but have the freedom to have the exact same game scale when inserted into a PS4.5.
Basically I want their to be one library. Which once the PS4.5 comes out certain games would have a banner or logo that says "4K Optimized or Capable".
psn- tokila
add me, the more the merrier.
| tokilamockingbrd said: this. It would be a really bad move by Sony to split the userbase while in such a strong position. Its not like with the expansion pack with the N64 where you just get a little accessory to add some power. We are a new console. Hopefully its a case where DEVs are required to make the games specifically for the PS4, but have the freedom to have the exact same game scale when inserted into a PS4.5.
Basically I want their to be one library. Which once the PS4.5 comes out certain games would have a banner or logo that says "4K Optimized or Capable". |
And Sony know that which is why they won't. I reckon it will alow for 4K output for video and allow games to be patched to make them run at 1080p/60fps.
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| Ruler said:
a reasonable opinion |
Thanks for this. Watching now.
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| Mr.Playstation said: Mr.Nintendo it is.... :3
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=209455&page=1#60 |
Nintendo and Xbox are eventually gonna do the same thing. Don't know where you have to go left.
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