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AsGryffynn on 11 March 2016
Random_Matt said:
And you care because? Sounds like your married to the product, would you quit gaming if they did pull out?

Yeah, but that's because none of the alternatives are good enough... 

That said, I am actually shocked gaming is now bringing in more money than Windows... Nadella will have to think this 20 times over before deciding Xbox is not worth it now and whoa... looks like even a distant second place is way better than last gen... 



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Random_Matt on 11 March 2016
AsGryffynn said:
Random_Matt said:
And you care because? Sounds like your married to the product, would you quit gaming if they did pull out?

Yeah, but that's because none of the alternatives are good enough... 

That said, I am actually shocked gaming is now bringing in more money than Windows... Nadella will have to think this 20 times over before deciding Xbox is not worth it now and whoa... looks like even a distant second place is way better than last gen... 

Yeah but Win 10 was free for a lot of people.



AsGryffynn on 11 March 2016
Random_Matt said:
AsGryffynn said:

Yeah, but that's because none of the alternatives are good enough... 

That said, I am actually shocked gaming is now bringing in more money than Windows... Nadella will have to think this 20 times over before deciding Xbox is not worth it now and whoa... looks like even a distant second place is way better than last gen... 

Yeah but Win 10 was free for a lot of people.

Yeah, those upgrading... The bulk of sales is OEM, not sales, and it says "OEM" in the image... 



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 11 March 2016

Feels like the gen restarted.



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theprof00 on 11 March 2016
AsGryffynn said:
Random_Matt said:
And you care because? Sounds like your married to the product, would you quit gaming if they did pull out?

Yeah, but that's because none of the alternatives are good enough... 

That said, I am actually shocked gaming is now bringing in more money than Windows... Nadella will have to think this 20 times over before deciding Xbox is not worth it now and whoa... looks like even a distant second place is way better than last gen... 

windows is all profit though.

xbox is not. If someone buys an xbox, and two games, microsoft will get revenue of 400$, but profit of 20-30$. If someone buys 100$ of windows, ms profits 100$ of windows.

MS likely...scratch that...DOES make more on windows than xbox. Way more.

Looking at the graph, and breaking down the numbers, "gaming" rev was around 5b, while windows was around 3.5-4b even if ms made 50% profit off of xbox revenues, it would still be under windows by 1-2 billion...or double....and that's being very generous.



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Turkish on 11 March 2016
theprof00 said:

revenue

I notice the author mentioned this as well. Yes, it's true that they want to keep the xbox "brand" alive. But brand does not mean console, or even console in the way that we know it.

I believe that yes, there will be another console from MS, but it's not going to be anything like we're expecting.

Expect no physical media, expect streaming, expect PC processing and cloud solutions.

Basically, expect something like a cable box with a video card and wifi

I think if they do another console it will boast the best hardware, the "weak console" stigma is still haunting them, they've realized that people also care for hardware. They might at some point bring out consoles with no discs though,, even this gen. Xbox 4 might be a Windows 11 machine, the OS part is getting more important for MS.



OneKartVita on 11 March 2016
Azuren said:
barneystinson69 said:

Nothing is certain, though the doom and gloom article's are rediculous...

But Super, you made one of them! 

classic! delboy esque that. 



theprof00 on 11 March 2016
Turkish said:
theprof00 said:

revenue

I notice the author mentioned this as well. Yes, it's true that they want to keep the xbox "brand" alive. But brand does not mean console, or even console in the way that we know it.

I believe that yes, there will be another console from MS, but it's not going to be anything like we're expecting.

Expect no physical media, expect streaming, expect PC processing and cloud solutions.

Basically, expect something like a cable box with a video card and wifi

I think if they do another console it will boast the best hardware, the "weak console" stigma is still haunting them, they've realized that people also care for hardware. They might at some point bring out consoles with no discs though,, even this gen. Xbox 4 might be a Windows 11 machine, the OS part is getting more important for MS.

You shouldn't think about things in terms of "how do they rectify image". You should think "how do they make the most profit".

The answer is simple. Make money on both hardware and software, and simultaneously have the highest graphical quality.
To do that, you make that digital box, you use the cloud or PC assistance. You increase your game count by bringing over PC games, and you increase your userbase by going PC as well. I also think Live isn't going anywhere, but it's also probably going to make a transition into xbox cloud or something like that.

Maybe something like, live subscription still 50$ per year on console, streams all your pc games to your xbox ie; crossplay (otherwise it does not), includes several windows/steam games per month. PC Live sub is free.



Shiken on 11 March 2016

Go away? No. Major change for better or worse in the near future? Absolutely.

Personally I am not fond of the way they are handling things of late, but we will see what the future holds.



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Uabit on 11 March 2016

Next Xbox is gonna be just the app. On Windows 10 or 11 or whatever.