Well - that is your case and it does not prove anything. Good to know, though.

Farsala said: Bloodborne? It might be much like the Souls series but Naughty Dog and Epic games worked on 3rd person game play and shooters before as well. The Order 1886 and Titanfall were supposed to be big hits and one of them was. Driveclub is great. Until Dawn is great. Splatoon. Tearaway () And that is just first party. Many more 3rd party games on top of it.

It's funny. DriveClub never comes to mind, but it really does meet the criterea. It really is this generations defining racer in it's current state. The weather really makes the difference. That said, I didn't like it on release...so I'm jaded.

No.You are confusing betwenn critical success and personal preferences.You want to define a game as having a critical success "status" based on your personal preference.That dosent work.For example:You said that people bought consoles for Soul Calibur(which for its time was a sucess and brought new things to the table, wont deny that), but go on to say that Tekken dont have the same effect, when Tekken is more popular and arguably the better franchise overall.There are games that are masterpieces and should be recognized so, like GTA 5(which I personally dont like but agree that it is excellent), but the way you put it, its like the definitions, the parameters we should be using to judge a game, should be your parameters, and yours alone.And that is wrong in the most fundamental level

entirely 100% subjective - that is called pleonasm, and this is 99% objective

No.You are confusing betwenn critical success and personal preferences.You want to define a game as having a critical success "status" based on your personal preference.That dosent work.For example:You said that people bought consoles for Soul Calibur(which for its time was a sucess and brought new things to the table, wont deny that), but go on to say that Tekken dont have the same effect, when Tekken is more popular and arguably the better franchise overall.There are games that are masterpieces and should be recognized so, like GTA 5(which I personally dont like but agree that it is excellent), but the way you put it, its like the definitions, the parameters we should be using to judge a game, should be your parameters, and yours alone.And that is wrong in the most fundamental level

Protendo said: Farsala said: Bloodborne? It might be much like the Souls series but Naughty Dog and Epic games worked on 3rd person game play and shooters before as well. The Order 1886 and Titanfall were supposed to be big hits and one of them was. Driveclub is great. Until Dawn is great. Splatoon. Tearaway () And that is just first party. Many more 3rd party games on top of it. It's funny. DriveClub never comes to mind, but it really does meet the criterea. It really is this generations defining racer in it's current state. The weather really makes the difference. That said, I didn't like it on release...so I'm jaded.

Media bias will always keep some games down, and hype games with shooting mechanics up.

Until Dawn probably meets its own criteria as well as it is quite special.

Ok, I'm wrong at fundamental level, but you dont understand spark. Spark is no preference - spark is Spark, spark transcends, GTA5 follow. Now please delete thread.

So you havent played Bloodborne, Driveclub, MGS5, The Evil Within, Deception 4 the Nightmare Princess, Fatal Frame 5 and the countless other awesome games?

Did Uncharted and Gears have all of those?

It proves that your view does not prove anything, that it is void in a certain context. Indeed it does. I want to know you as a human being, give me facebook if you desire, please do.